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Shock extenders question

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30 Jan 2017 23:35 #177541 by TomDK
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If only people would read the entire first post :)

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30 Jan 2017 23:36 - 30 Jan 2017 23:54 #177542 by wilku
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I think I wrote that - I am getting also spring spacers (although called them spring extenders - my bad). So along with shock extenders they will lift the Jimny about 35-40mm.

Martin - why wont the spacers fit? Both in front and in the rear they will relocate the mounting point and rotate the shock mount by 90 degrees. From what I've seen and measured there's plenty of space on the front to fit an extender like that... Am I missing something???

//EDIT: found a bits4vits blog entry about rear spacers used on the front: www.bits4vits.co.uk/store/re-lifting-the-jimny/blog_246.html
I'll do it the same way.

1066Boy - what do you mean by ARB? And how on Earth are exntendrs + spacers giving extra flex? The travel distance of the shock and spring won't change. The only gain is the clearance.
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31 Jan 2017 07:14 #177544 by 1066Boy
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wilku wrote:
1066Boy - what do you mean by ARB? And how on Earth are exntendrs + spacers giving extra flex? The travel distance of the shock and spring won't change. The only gain is the clearance.


ARB = Front Anti Roll Bar. :)

By extending the shock mounting point you are effectively extending the total length of it when fully extended so allowing more
travel when that wheel is not under load. You get the same effect on the front when the Arb is removed as it restricts travel. :)
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31 Jan 2017 07:45 - 31 Jan 2017 07:55 #177545 by mlines
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I said that rear extenders will not fit the front because the dimensions freely available on the Internet and copied by most makers without applying any design thought will only fit the rear.

An extender designed for the front has different dimensions because it has to fit in the space between the existing mounting bracket and has to have the height to clear the mounting bracket. Therefore it is narrower that the published dimensions for the rear.

However the converse is normally true, a front bracket will fit the rear

Knowing Dave at Bits4vits, I am sure his brackets are designed properly to fit.

An extender will only permit more flex if the shocks were hitting their internal stops before the extender was added.

Martin

2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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31 Jan 2017 07:55 #177546 by Busta
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1066Boy wrote:
By extending the shock mounting point you are effectively extending the total length of it when fully extended so allowing more
travel when that wheel is not under load. You get the same effect on the front when the Arb is removed as it restricts travel. :)


You are not changing the distance the wheel can travel as the shock still has the same stroke. All you are doing is moving the body higher relative to the axles. The suspension will not articulate any more than standard.
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31 Jan 2017 08:07 #177547 by j999pre
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I totally agree with busta. Extenders and spacers will make room for bigger tyres but don't alter flex. The range of movement in the shock is not altered.
A lot of people go this cheap route. If they flexed their standard Jimny with the arb off before the lift and then after they would see.

Proper springs and shocks are the way

Gold Jimny the best colour (sold) :(

Big red Jimny 32" tyres, arbs, cage 5:1 transfer etc. (Sold)

Grey pick up Jimny
Turbo m13a, arbs, floating rear shafts, disc conversion rear, vented front conversion. 245 70 16. Winch, 3" lift, 4:16 trans hd shafts and CVS

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