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Jimny rust proofing

  • helijohn
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08 Mar 2015 19:42 #140148 by helijohn
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facade wrote:
Best I can come up with is somehow the steel was different, and more rust prone. Certainly we have paper thin "high strength" steel in Modern Cars.


It is a good point. It was a well known claim the the steel in 1972 (or was it '94?? :unsure: ) was the highest quality for years before and after.

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08 Mar 2015 20:01 #140151 by Grego
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I had a 6 yr old '75 Datsun with a rotten subframe (no surprise there I here you say) and '78 Escort van, again 6 yrs old with a rotten chassis, the front leafspring mount had come through the floor on the rear suspension :woohoo:

The good ol' 70's, imagine that on a 59 /09 reg car now

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08 Mar 2015 21:56 #140161 by Paul_sterling
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well metallurgy of steel is better understood now than it ever has been, so the basic product processing gets better and better, but....... a lot of steel produced these days has ever higher percentages of recycled metal in it.


separate story, but a university once proved that steel "learns" how to rust.

two blocks of steel, both new, both from same batch.

one is sand blasted and then allowed to rust.

once rusty, it is brought with the other unrusted bit, to the sand blaster, and both are then blasted,

which one rusted first?

the steel which had already rusted once had gone through a small but significant metallurgic change, and as a result, had learned how to rust, and rusted much quicker in subsequent tests.

Paul.

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08 Mar 2015 22:01 - 03 Jul 2016 14:16 #140162 by Caulkheader
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Suzuki need to read their own literature then. From their 2015 brochure, also available online -

'All body panels are made from high tensile galvanised steel '
Last edit: 03 Jul 2016 14:16 by Caulkheader. Reason: Typo

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  • helijohn
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11 Mar 2015 18:40 - 11 Mar 2015 18:42 #140382 by helijohn
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Paul4A wrote: Here's a few rust preventative or solution based sites I had saved in my favourites.

www.autopaint-pro.co.uk/1l-bonda-rust-primer-121-p.asp
www.bilthamber.com/
www.frost.co.uk/automotive-rust-products...-rust-solutions.html
gibbsbrandeurope.com/automotive.html
www.hammerite-automotive.com/
www.mikesander.co.uk/
www.frost.co.uk/automotive-paint/por15-paints.html

and one I've used before for both their rust converter Fe123 and epoxy mastic primer is www.rust.co.uk/
They also sell Dinotrol underbody waxes which can in some reviews come out better than Waxoyl

Paul


Have you used most of them and which works the best?
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11 Mar 2015 22:35 #140405 by Licksan
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I've used POR15 on a few vehicles and would highly recommend it.
The whole system of products works well and produces good results.

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