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Trailmaster vs. Black Raptor
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18 May 2020 20:57 #222514
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Replied by Grima on topic Trailmaster vs. Black Raptor
Black Raptor yes, Trailmaster what's the point in a 2" lift then fit a 1" bump stop on the front???????
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18 May 2020 21:16 - 18 May 2020 21:19 #222515
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:Trailmaster vs. Black Raptor
In my opinion the bump stops are an integral part of a live axle suspension. It is possible to over compress a spring or punch through the end stop of a shock on the compressing side.
Once the compressed side stops compressing against the bump stop then the car starts to transfer weight to the extending side which you want (to a point, you don't want to roll of course). You need to other side to have weight on it so the wheel grips the surface. I have seen some "high flex" which are really just where a wheel has dropped to the ground ("great flex mate!") but then just spins the wheel as there is no downside on it.
On my 3.5 inch lift on the Gen3 Jimny, extended bump stops have definitely improve the way it crosses bumpy ground
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Once the compressed side stops compressing against the bump stop then the car starts to transfer weight to the extending side which you want (to a point, you don't want to roll of course). You need to other side to have weight on it so the wheel grips the surface. I have seen some "high flex" which are really just where a wheel has dropped to the ground ("great flex mate!") but then just spins the wheel as there is no downside on it.
On my 3.5 inch lift on the Gen3 Jimny, extended bump stops have definitely improve the way it crosses bumpy ground
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Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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18 May 2020 21:34 #222516
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Front axel hitting front brace member. That's where Trailmaster were to quick to offer a lift kit. All other 50mm kits compensate for this.
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18 May 2020 21:37 - 18 May 2020 21:41 #222517
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:Trailmaster vs. Black Raptor
Sorry, but I have not seen the 50mm Trailmaster hit the prop, I will keep an eye on it of course.
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Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Last edit: 18 May 2020 21:41 by mlines.
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18 May 2020 21:58 #222518
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Replied by Grima on topic Re:Trailmaster vs. Black Raptor
In other kits brackets for lowering the front brace member are fitted so there is no need to add extra bump stops on the front axel. Therefore losing no articulation.
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18 May 2020 21:58 #222519
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Replied by Lasse on topic Trailmaster vs. Black Raptor
What about the steering damper - anyone who has upgraded that when fitted a lift kit..?
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