Re:Suspension Lift and Ground Clearance?

sniper wrote: All the lanes I drive are legal and you'd be surprised how many of them are quite challenging, even impassable to your car.... YouTube Parkamoor & Gatescarth Pass, you'll see how challenging they are. Multiply that considerably in Wales, where winches are often needed. All on legal lanes.

Thanks. I have done many many lanes in Wales and other places. If they are impassable or require winching, then I would suggest that by and large you probably shouldn't be there.

300bhpton wrote:

Lambert wrote: You are right. No amount of suspension or body lift is going to have any effect on the available ground clearance of a live axle vehicle for the simple fact that you are not raising the lowest point of the vehicle. The only way to do that is by fitting bigger tyres. Which is what the lift allows you space to do.

Respectfully I would disagree.

Take a situation like this:

The underside of the vehicle is grounded, due to insufficient clearance. A suspension lift would most certainly afford more clearance here and likely prevent damage or getting stuck. As a suspension lift would raise the chassis and body (and all those bits attached like the transmission and transfer case) and prevent them grounding.

That's a particularly poor example though isn't it. That's a long wheel base wrangler and was always going to struggle with that kind of terrain. A Jimny wouldn't ground out on that because of its shortness and general lack of size allowing it to navigate an entirely different line that wouldn't involve it driving over a rock as big as it is.

Lambert wrote:

300bhpton wrote:

Lambert wrote: You are right. No amount of suspension or body lift is going to have any effect on the available ground clearance of a live axle vehicle for the simple fact that you are not raising the lowest point of the vehicle. The only way to do that is by fitting bigger tyres. Which is what the lift allows you space to do.

Respectfully I would disagree.

Take a situation like this:

The underside of the vehicle is grounded, due to insufficient clearance. A suspension lift would most certainly afford more clearance here and likely prevent damage or getting stuck. As a suspension lift would raise the chassis and body (and all those bits attached like the transmission and transfer case) and prevent them grounding.

That's a particularly poor example though isn't it. That's a long wheel base wrangler and was always going to struggle with that kind of terrain. A Jimny wouldn't ground out on that because of its shortness and general lack of size allowing it to navigate an entirely different line that wouldn't involve it driving over a rock as big as it is.

I don’t see what that has to do with the price of biscuits.

It’s just a random pic off Google. I couldn’t give a flying whatsit what vehicle it is. The example was when the body/chassis are grounded. A “suspension” lift would increase the clearance. Therefore, suspensions lifts do increase clearance.

If you are that picky I suspect I could find a picture of an 80” Land Rover beached. They are even shorter than a Jimny

Lets cut the BS, suspension lift raises the chassis height. Giving it better clearance over uneven ground. But doesn't raise the axel / diff height.

Ok so you lift your truck and now you have all this air under the chassis and life is peachy except that now you've got your swing arms and propshafts running much steeper angles and they are also no longer hiding most of the time inside the line of the chassis. I could be wrong but sitting a large proportion of the weight of the car on a propshaft is not going to do it much good.

Suzuki did not design the Jimny by accident but instead spent much time, effort and money creating a car that drives down the street without being a death trap while still being able to venture out into the wilds far beyond where the average person would believe possible without the need to it's wheels on stilts.

300bhpton wrote:

Thanks. I have done many many lanes in Wales and other places. If they are impassable or require winching, then I would suggest that by and large you probably shouldn't be there.

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