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Handbraking rear wheels individually?
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26 Nov 2016 08:47 #174933
by 1066Boy
Got lots of practice with my old Hi-Lux, no difflock and a very light rear end. It was just the same with my KJA. :laugh:
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NickR wrote:
1066Boy - I have never actually tried using the handbrake while spinning a wheel! Seems so obvious now you mention it
Nick
Got lots of practice with my old Hi-Lux, no difflock and a very light rear end. It was just the same with my KJA. :laugh:
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26 Nov 2016 10:05 #174935
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You can tell I am new to Suzukis as I had to google what a "KJA" was 
Had a quick scan of the MOT manual. There are a few key phrases :
It must be:
"designed to prevent at least two wheels from turning"
"Hydraulic parking brakes as a sole means of operation are not acceptable"
and specifically has a section for extra brakes
"This inspection applies to all vehicles with a secondary brake operating mechanism in addition to, or in place of, the normal parking brake lever. "
MOT rejection reasons include
"the parking brake is not capable of being maintained in operation by direct mechanical action only"
"A parking brake lever or control inappropriately repaired or modified. "
and lots of catch-alls about condition, obstructing smooth action etc.
So, there will be a lot down to the individual opinion of the MoT tester, but I can't see that cable operation of one wheel is a no-no as long as it leaves the main system working. Extending the individual cables to separate fiddle levers, so the normal system is unaffected would be good, but that is in the massive grey area about obstructing the mechanism. A simpler system to clamp/block an individual cable so the handbrake only acts on the other wheel might be the way to go as it may be easier to demonstrate to an MOT inspector.
Food for thought in the winter months anyway
Nick
Had a quick scan of the MOT manual. There are a few key phrases :
It must be:
"designed to prevent at least two wheels from turning"
"Hydraulic parking brakes as a sole means of operation are not acceptable"
and specifically has a section for extra brakes
"This inspection applies to all vehicles with a secondary brake operating mechanism in addition to, or in place of, the normal parking brake lever. "
MOT rejection reasons include
"the parking brake is not capable of being maintained in operation by direct mechanical action only"
"A parking brake lever or control inappropriately repaired or modified. "
and lots of catch-alls about condition, obstructing smooth action etc.
So, there will be a lot down to the individual opinion of the MoT tester, but I can't see that cable operation of one wheel is a no-no as long as it leaves the main system working. Extending the individual cables to separate fiddle levers, so the normal system is unaffected would be good, but that is in the massive grey area about obstructing the mechanism. A simpler system to clamp/block an individual cable so the handbrake only acts on the other wheel might be the way to go as it may be easier to demonstrate to an MOT inspector.
Food for thought in the winter months anyway
Nick
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26 Nov 2016 13:45 #174940
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i would have thought it easier to use 2x motor bike front leavers
and tee into brake lines near to the wheels
Jack
and tee into brake lines near to the wheels
Jack
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26 Nov 2016 14:07 #174942
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How would the normal footbrake work then?
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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jackonlyjack wrote: i would have thought it easier to use 2x motor bike front leavers
and tee into brake lines near to the wheels
Jack
How would the normal footbrake work then?
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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