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Handbraking rear wheels individually?
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26 Nov 2016 06:31 #174927
by NickR
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Hi,
While I wait for lighter, warmer evenings to return so that I can start on my planned lift and other mods, I was pondering what else to do to the Jimny. I am not planning on massive mods.
One thing that I end up doing every time I play off-road is spinning 2 opposite wheels as I get cross-axled. I don't want to go to the extremes off diff lockers etc, so I was thinking about whether I could apply the brakes to one wheel to regain some traction. Again, for ease, the rear is easiest with mechanical handbrake cables. As the handbrake cables are separate until the equaliser just under the floor, extending them inside and finding a way to pull each one individually seemed a potentially non-complex mod with some real benefit. Maybe just clamp one at a time so the standard handbrake only pulls one via the equaliser. All I need to do is work out a way to do it
Has anyone tried anything similar? And does anyone know whether the handbrake on the Jimny is strong enough for this? I am not looking to brake a moving wheel to slow the entire vehicle, but just to lock up one side of the axle enough to drive the other from stationary.
Nick
While I wait for lighter, warmer evenings to return so that I can start on my planned lift and other mods, I was pondering what else to do to the Jimny. I am not planning on massive mods.
One thing that I end up doing every time I play off-road is spinning 2 opposite wheels as I get cross-axled. I don't want to go to the extremes off diff lockers etc, so I was thinking about whether I could apply the brakes to one wheel to regain some traction. Again, for ease, the rear is easiest with mechanical handbrake cables. As the handbrake cables are separate until the equaliser just under the floor, extending them inside and finding a way to pull each one individually seemed a potentially non-complex mod with some real benefit. Maybe just clamp one at a time so the standard handbrake only pulls one via the equaliser. All I need to do is work out a way to do it

Has anyone tried anything similar? And does anyone know whether the handbrake on the Jimny is strong enough for this? I am not looking to brake a moving wheel to slow the entire vehicle, but just to lock up one side of the axle enough to drive the other from stationary.
Nick
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26 Nov 2016 07:17 #174928
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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You are talking about fiddle brakes, which were very popular in The Olden Days on trials vehicles, when they were made from old Ford Populars.
They possibly aren't road legal, but no-one manages to pint out why- it is most likely due to the imbalance if you apply one at a time as an emergency brake.
Have a search, try this thread first
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum?view=to...39768&layout=default
They possibly aren't road legal, but no-one manages to pint out why- it is most likely due to the imbalance if you apply one at a time as an emergency brake.
Have a search, try this thread first
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum?view=to...39768&layout=default
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there

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26 Nov 2016 07:19 #174929
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I have used fiddle brakes on a Landrover and they are good in tight turns (locking the inside rear wheel) but
that is using the hydraulic system. I have had some success with the Jimny in a cross-axle just by using the
normal hadbrake applied about 3/4 of full as it acts like a poor mans LSD.
that is using the hydraulic system. I have had some success with the Jimny in a cross-axle just by using the
normal hadbrake applied about 3/4 of full as it acts like a poor mans LSD.

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26 Nov 2016 07:26 #174930
by facade
I remember doing that to get moving in The Olden Days when we used to have Proper Snow and I had a Proper Car with a sack of sand in the boot a V8 and a BW 35 gearbox that only drove the rear wheels
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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1066Boy wrote: I have had some success with the Jimny in a cross-axle just by using the
normal hadbrake applied about 3/4 of full as it acts like a poor mans LSD.
I remember doing that to get moving in The Olden Days when we used to have Proper Snow and I had a Proper Car with a sack of sand in the boot a V8 and a BW 35 gearbox that only drove the rear wheels

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26 Nov 2016 07:43 #174931
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Thanks facade. I wonder if Jo King ever got them made up as a kit. That looks a great solution. For ease and speed of application (as per the video in that link), 2 levers is going to be hard to beat (apart from 3 in total!!) Looked very effective though.
I shall have to check the legality of it. Maybe a second cable to each drum would be needed to leave the legal system intact.
1066Boy - I have never actually tried using the handbrake while spinning a wheel! Seems so obvious now you mention it
Nick
I shall have to check the legality of it. Maybe a second cable to each drum would be needed to leave the legal system intact.
1066Boy - I have never actually tried using the handbrake while spinning a wheel! Seems so obvious now you mention it

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26 Nov 2016 08:09 #174932
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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They are pegged together for road use, but without the swinging compensator, they will need very careful cable adjustment.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there

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