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URGENT - How many balls do you have?

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11 Nov 2014 16:30 #129238 by Frankenjimny
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Update - unfortunately I can't find any supplier in the UK who can supply me with the newer 8-ball CV joint replacement kit - except for the genuine Suzuki ones which cost about £375+VAT. The Jakopart and Meyle ones do not seem to be available here. And none of the online breakers (e.g. Cam-Suzuki) have a newer axle that they are prepared to strip out (they prefer to sell the whole axle complete). So the only choices it seems are:

1. Buy a genuine Suzuki replacement
2. Try and import an aftermarket replacement
3. Buy a used old style 6-ball replacement half-axle and hope it fits and does not cause problems.

Looks like I'll be shelling out for a Suzuki part :(

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11 Nov 2014 18:25 #129250 by minitehnicus
uk is an expensive country.

the genuine 44101-84A00 cost here 445 euros or 355 pounds.

3xSuzuki Jimny

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11 Nov 2014 19:14 #129254 by mlines

Frankenjimny wrote: The Jakopart and Meyle ones do not seem to be available here.


Well they are listed with my distributor but only in the equivalents table and the table points them to the 6-ball joint.

Their master document does not describe the cage/balls. Instead it gives this table:

CV1569N

Seal diam.: 28 mm, Int. teeth. wheel side: 20, Ext. Teeth, wheel side: 26, Ø: 72 mm, Overall Height: 166 mm
20 internal splines, manual transmission, model code FJ. Engine code g13b


Then there is another listing for

JCV501n

Seal diam.: 28 mm, Ext. Teeth, wheel side: 26, Overall Height: 166 mm, Ø: 72 mm, Int. teeth. wheel side: 19
Manual, auto, model code FJ, engine code m13a g13b,

Martin

2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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11 Nov 2014 20:31 #129261 by X8GGY

Frankenjimny wrote: Update - unfortunately I can't find any supplier in the UK who can supply me with the newer 8-ball CV joint replacement kit - except for the genuine Suzuki ones which cost about £375+VAT. The Jakopart and Meyle ones do not seem to be available here. And none of the online breakers (e.g. Cam-Suzuki) have a newer axle that they are prepared to strip out (they prefer to sell the whole axle complete). So the only choices it seems are:

1. Buy a genuine Suzuki replacement
2. Try and import an aftermarket replacement
3. Buy a used old style 6-ball replacement half-axle and hope it fits and does not cause problems.

Looks like I'll be shelling out for a Suzuki part :(


If it helps, I've got a couple, as I've changed my front shafts to 26 spline -

www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum?view=topic&catid=11&id=55765

Dave

Wandered off for a bit... you'll find me in the garage building a Jimny Buggy ;)

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11 Nov 2014 20:41 #129262 by vitara_mad
not much point paying £40 + postage to refurb a cv when you buy a new cv for £50

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11 Nov 2014 20:41 - 11 Nov 2014 20:44 #129263 by Frankenjimny
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mlines wrote:

Frankenjimny wrote: The Jakopart and Meyle ones do not seem to be available here.


Well they are listed with my distributor


Yeah thanks, one of my local motor factors had the part no. listed, but it had a note saying not applicable to my vehicle registration. They got one in for me just in case, but yep, it turned out to be the old 6-ball type. I've contacted a couple of UK CV specialists to see if they can help - hopefully get replies back tomorrow.
Last edit: 11 Nov 2014 20:44 by Frankenjimny. Reason: Quoting went wrong

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11 Nov 2014 20:48 #129265 by Frankenjimny
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Jimny-Dave wrote:

Frankenjimny wrote: Update - unfortunately I can't find any supplier in the UK who can supply me with the newer 8-ball CV joint replacement kit - except for the genuine Suzuki ones which cost about £375+VAT. The Jakopart and Meyle ones do not seem to be available here. And none of the online breakers (e.g. Cam-Suzuki) have a newer axle that they are prepared to strip out (they prefer to sell the whole axle complete). So the only choices it seems are:

1. Buy a genuine Suzuki replacement
2. Try and import an aftermarket replacement
3. Buy a used old style 6-ball replacement half-axle and hope it fits and does not cause problems.

Looks like I'll be shelling out for a Suzuki part :(


If it helps, I've got a couple, as I've changed my front shafts to 26 spline -

www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum?view=topic&catid=11&id=55765

Dave


Thanks Dave, I'll see how things go, but could be interested. At least if you've swapped yours then I know that they are definitely interchangeable. I wonder if there would be any implications of having the nearside 8-ball and the off-side 6-ball? I don't do any real off-roading, I just live down a rough track!

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11 Nov 2014 21:27 #129270 by mlines

vitara_mad wrote: not much point paying £40 + postage to refurb a cv when you buy a new cv for £50



Because you cannot always get the new CVs depending on UK wide stocks.

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Martin

2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses

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12 Nov 2014 09:30 #129296 by mlines
For anyone who does want the genuine Suzuki part its £385 including of VAT with postage extra from the Bigjimny Store

Martin

2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses

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13 Nov 2014 09:54 #129382 by Frankenjimny
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mlines wrote:

Frankenjimny wrote: The Jakopart and Meyle ones do not seem to be available here.


CV1569N

Seal diam.: 28 mm, Int. teeth. wheel side: 20, Ext. Teeth, wheel side: 26, Ø: 72 mm, Overall Height: 166 mm
20 internal splines, manual transmission, model code FJ. Engine code g13b


Then there is another listing for

JCV501n

Seal diam.: 28 mm, Ext. Teeth, wheel side: 26, Overall Height: 166 mm, Ø: 72 mm, Int. teeth. wheel side: 19
Manual, auto, model code FJ, engine code m13a g13b,


This suggests that apart from the CV joint the shafts are identical except that there is a difference in the number of Int. teeth wheel side 19 vs 20 (I believe this refers to the diff end). So in fact the two shafts would not appear to be interchangeable.

Glad to see you can offer the new shaft at a more reasonable price Martin, however I have already managed to get one at a similar price from a local dealer, otherwise I would have got it from you. Its a shame the Jakopart or Meyle versions don't seem to be available in the UK and none of the CV/driveshaft specialists I contacted were able to help. But thanks to everyone here for your help - I should be back on the road for the weekend anyway!

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