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The dreaded 2005 gearbox issue!

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29 Nov 2018 12:43 #198354 by paradox1001
Replied by paradox1001 on topic Re:The dreaded 2005 gearbox issue!
Find yourself an independent gearbox specialist and get them to quote you.
I bet it will be a lot cheaper than you’ve been quoted.

Is it specific years that have gearbox problems?

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29 Nov 2018 17:10 #198378 by mlines
around £700 from a specialist gearbox rebuilder in Berkshire, less if you put in some of the work yourself

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29 Nov 2018 18:30 #198388 by Max Headroom
Martin, is that price (£700 ish) assuming that the gearbox is already removed?


IF IT AINT BROKE, KEEP FIXING IT UNTIL IT IS

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29 Nov 2018 18:39 #198389 by OlaGB
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paradox1001 wrote: Find yourself an independent gearbox specialist and get them to quote you.
I bet it will be a lot cheaper than you’ve been quoted.

Is it specific years that have gearbox problems?


Not sure what year, but at some point they changed from open bearings, to sealed bearings. I rebuilt my own box, and got only sealed bearings in the kit i bought. The seller sold tons of gearbox bearing kits, and said the sealed bearings where more expensive, but last longer and is used by many manufacurers stock as well.
Yakuza (member here) bought a low km 2013(?) box used, and inspected it with a small cam and found sealed bearings in it as well..
The bearing that dies first, seems to be the highest rear one. Probably not enough oil flow around it, or maybe the most loaded bearing, not sure.

I´m only 8k km down the road after rebuilding, so its too early to say anything about lifespan.

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29 Nov 2018 19:09 #198390 by yakuza

OlaGB wrote:

paradox1001 wrote: Find yourself an independent gearbox specialist and get them to quote you.
I bet it will be a lot cheaper than you’ve been quoted.

Is it specific years that have gearbox problems?


Not sure what year, but at some point they changed from open bearings, to sealed bearings. I rebuilt my own box, and got only sealed bearings in the kit i bought. The seller sold tons of gearbox bearing kits, and said the sealed bearings where more expensive, but last longer and is used by many manufacurers stock as well.
Yakuza (member here) bought a low km 2013(?) box used, and inspected it with a small cam and found sealed bearings in it as well..
The bearing that dies first, seems to be the highest rear one. Probably not enough oil flow around it, or maybe the most loaded bearing, not sure.

I´m only 8k km down the road after rebuilding, so its too early to say anything about lifespan.


I think mine was 2012 or 2013.. A bit hard to say with nowegian jimnys, but i think i kept the vin somewhere.
I read somewhere that after 2009 there is an upgrade.
I am abusing mine now with m16a engine, but i think the low gears in the transfer box helps putting more of the torque over to that box.

I top up my gearbox oil every so often now as i got the leaky intermediate shaft as well. Could have been a factor with my old gearbox failing, not sure..
I got these sounds from the bearings in the box, and when they got a bit worse, the box had a total inner failure after 15-20km. If you have noises from the bearings just stop driving and get it fixed.

Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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29 Nov 2018 19:23 #198393 by paradox1001
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Ahh mines a 2002 so could possibly be one of the boxes that have problems.
Might be an idea for me to change the oil as a precaution

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