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04 Jan 2017 06:19 - 04 Jan 2017 08:28 #176226 by kirkynut
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Also strong axles. The Jimmy took on weaker axles than the Samurai and the Vitara had that alloy front diff housing.

This is of course just wishful thinking as it's likely to have independent suspension all round and a monocoque chassis. I forsee it being akin to a smaller Rav 4.
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11 Jan 2017 15:53 #176568 by auchenblae
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The Vitara has a 1.6 non Turbo and a 1.4 Turbo and these are £15k to £22k cars.

Therefore Suzuki will not give you a 1.6 non Turbo as it is a bargain basement car. For that matter to keep the £22k Vitara customers happy no 1.4 Turbo in that why spend £20k when those punters are getting it for £14k.

Look at the Ignis non Turbo 2wd and 4 wd all with 90 hp 1.2litre and the 4wd is £14k.

The Baleno is 2wd and has a 1.0 Turbo at 111 bhp.

Therefpre I suggest a 1.2, 90 bhp non turbo or the 1 litre 111bhp turbo but will it have enough low rpm grunt.

You must also remeber the Jimny is n longert a great seller and other models will come first to Europe as they sell more units.

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11 Jan 2017 19:40 #176604 by Chewster
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I would argue that it's no longer a great seller because the engine has only been updated once (and even then just barely) in it's lifetime. I can't see them not giving it a certain engine just because a different car has it at a different price. The Jimny is a bargain basement car really, that's part of it's whole appeal, it's a no frills go anywhere machine.

I wouldn't like to comment too in depth on the engines you've suggested (i'm far from an expert lol) but really I think in this day and age any car that isn't specifically a city car needs to be having at least around 100bhp. Also a turbo or a supercharger would be a good idea seeing as almost every other car these days has one or the other, or both if it's from the VW Group.

On the topic of a turbo or a supercharger, if they were to make a new Jimny with one, it'd be good if the actual turbo or supercharger itself was designed to also fit onto the old engine with minimal effort. I don't know about the rest of you but I can't see me EVER buying a brand new car of any sort so it's fun for me to speculate on a new Jimny (and other new cars) but really I'm the kind of man who'd rather buy an old one and upgrade it if possible.

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11 Jan 2017 20:06 #176609 by auchenblae
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Chewster wrote: I can't see them not giving it a certain engine just because a different car has it at a different price. The Jimny is a bargain basement car really, that's part of it's whole appeal, it's a no frills go anywhere machine.


Well Chester Suzuki is car company that markets there models at different makets as any other manufacturer dose.

They will not provived an engine from a more upmarket vehicle as that would upset those paying a higher price as the customer would buy the cheaper vehicle. Car prices are not based on the cost to manufactuer but the maxium price a company can get for that vehicel in that perceived market segment.

As you say you would not buy a new car and you fail to understand the techniques car makers use to convince new car buyers to spend more on a more expensive model which in most cases does not reflect the extra cost of manufacture.

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11 Jan 2017 20:41 #176618 by Busta
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All manufacturers have examples using the same engines at many different price points, so that argument doesn't really stack up.

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11 Jan 2017 21:27 #176623 by Chewster
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Yeah I'm sorry but people who buy a Vitara buy a Vitara to have a Vitara. They're not going to buy a Jimny just because it has the same engine. Having the same engine does not make the same car. I don't tell people that my work Transit is just a Defender because it has the same engine - they're completely different vehicles.

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