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"Mild" off-road plans for Jimny commuting and playing - Opinions welcome :)
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09 Nov 2016 21:26 #174444
by Venter
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Keithy, Rockwatt some time back replied to a question of mine regarding full time 4wd. Apparently the Lada Niva transfer box has a central diff as part of it, so if you install one of them you have a beefed up t-box (built Russian tough!) which can also be 'lobsterised'. All you need to do is fab new mounts for the t-box, nothing major at all, and he had a couple Niva t-boxes lying around his workshop at the time.
I'd reckon that uprated half-shafts and CVs are a must for the conversion though.
This is very high up on my list of things to do, just waiting for my lotto numbers to come in, I've got a feeling they'll be this week...
I'd reckon that uprated half-shafts and CVs are a must for the conversion though.
This is very high up on my list of things to do, just waiting for my lotto numbers to come in, I've got a feeling they'll be this week...
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09 Nov 2016 21:40 #174446
by Keithy
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11 Nov 2016 09:09 #174498
by Bosanek
Replied by Bosanek on topic "Mild" off-road plans for Jimny commuting and playing - Opinions welcome :)
Installing turbo to an engine and installing a transfer box from a different vehicle definitely ain't "mild" any more, even with double quotes applied.

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11 Nov 2016 13:29 #174504
by NickR
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When I bought a Jimny and joined this forum, I did not expect to find any threads about turbocharging the thing
It had never crossed my mind to do anything other than make it play off-road.
Mind you (and this will date me), "turbo" to me conjures up images of cars with big go-faster graphics down the side, perfectly decently-powered petrol engines that just wanted "mooorree pooowwweeerrr" (Copyright Top Gear), and lag that needed to be planned ahead for! From the days when you could hear the turbo whistle from inside the car. It is more likely now to mean something added to a car to make up for it being a diesel, or having cylinders removed.
Disclaimer : the motoring world may have moved on in the last few decades, but I am struggling to catch up. Go easy on me

Having said that, I doubt I will ever get round to that sort of "non-mild" thing anyway, but, hey, it's nice to dream
Nick

Mind you (and this will date me), "turbo" to me conjures up images of cars with big go-faster graphics down the side, perfectly decently-powered petrol engines that just wanted "mooorree pooowwweeerrr" (Copyright Top Gear), and lag that needed to be planned ahead for! From the days when you could hear the turbo whistle from inside the car. It is more likely now to mean something added to a car to make up for it being a diesel, or having cylinders removed.
Disclaimer : the motoring world may have moved on in the last few decades, but I am struggling to catch up. Go easy on me


Having said that, I doubt I will ever get round to that sort of "non-mild" thing anyway, but, hey, it's nice to dream

Nick
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11 Nov 2016 16:22 #174509
by Keithy
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Many things have moved on Nick.
In the "olden days" fitting a turbo meant having to reduce the compression ratio and massive amounts of work to get the ignition to not destroy the engine.
Nowadays you can type your ignition timing into the map along with the fuel and it's so so easy.
No loss of torque low down in the modern age..With a really light right foot you wouldn't know the turbo was there..knock detection is sweet....as is wideband lambda.
I think I'll go to an M16A with VVT next...that's how it escalates!
If Hillary had won the US election I'd have stuck with the M13A and built a fallout shelter
In the "olden days" fitting a turbo meant having to reduce the compression ratio and massive amounts of work to get the ignition to not destroy the engine.
Nowadays you can type your ignition timing into the map along with the fuel and it's so so easy.
No loss of torque low down in the modern age..With a really light right foot you wouldn't know the turbo was there..knock detection is sweet....as is wideband lambda.
I think I'll go to an M16A with VVT next...that's how it escalates!

If Hillary had won the US election I'd have stuck with the M13A and built a fallout shelter

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13 Nov 2016 07:16 #174558
by NickR
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I hear you, Keithy!
I work in automotive (not in the detail of engine design and fuelling), so I have moved on in mind, but stuck in the "olden days" in spirit
I think that is one reason why the Jimny appeals. I can work on and under it on my drive with my daughter and simple tools. In contrast, my Octavia has a MIL light on at the moment for a sticky inlet manifold flap/actuator (probably gummed up from EGR), but the amount of removal/disassembly just to get access to it to clean it means that I lazily just wiggle the external actuator by hand, clear the codes, and it is good for a few more weeks.
I do still like the sound of a turbo. My Octavia's is virtually silent. The Saab Aero it replaced sounded great - allegedly the turbo sound inside the cabin was considered while they designed it!
The snag with my escalation path is that it quickly gets to a point where a garage to work in would be handy, and that means a new house
I hadn't thought to use Clinton/Trump as a justification for spending on the Jimny - nice
Nick
I work in automotive (not in the detail of engine design and fuelling), so I have moved on in mind, but stuck in the "olden days" in spirit

I think that is one reason why the Jimny appeals. I can work on and under it on my drive with my daughter and simple tools. In contrast, my Octavia has a MIL light on at the moment for a sticky inlet manifold flap/actuator (probably gummed up from EGR), but the amount of removal/disassembly just to get access to it to clean it means that I lazily just wiggle the external actuator by hand, clear the codes, and it is good for a few more weeks.
I do still like the sound of a turbo. My Octavia's is virtually silent. The Saab Aero it replaced sounded great - allegedly the turbo sound inside the cabin was considered while they designed it!
The snag with my escalation path is that it quickly gets to a point where a garage to work in would be handy, and that means a new house

I hadn't thought to use Clinton/Trump as a justification for spending on the Jimny - nice

Nick
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