Anyone familiar with the traction control?

I have also driven new LR products off road on many occasions. I don't think "attack harder" is the correct phrase. You can creep along nice and slow but when issues occur you have to give the system some revs to work with which is slightly different in my mind

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1066Boy wrote: I have driven the newer LR products off road with the traction control and i dont
like it. You have to attack things much harder, rather than gently feel your way through.
Yes it works but its not a replacement for a difflock in my opinion.

I've been quite impressed with the traction control in our Defender and Range Rover. I don't agree about having to attack things harder. I still go steady. The difference is when you do loose traction you can rev it and it finds grip, rather than throwing up mud and digging a deeper hole. It's not a replacement for diff locks but no standard Landrover has ever had proper diff locks anyway.

Suzuki have no interest in the off-road capabilities of it's vehicle, so I doubt the traction control is much use for anything.

Depends on use. Traction control is fine for standard use.
My experience is from competition use. Higher revs + aggressive mud tyres
Is just asking for breakages. Traction control activates when traction is already a
problem. At least with a locking diff you can engage it before the problem arises.

300bhpton wrote:

Rhinoman wrote: The system just applies a little braking to a spinning wheel to send power to the other wheel.

If that's the case, then it is how LR and Jeep do it.

Most systems work like this because it can use the same controller as the ABS so the added cost is negligible. On the Suzuki it works as ESP unless you are in 4WD and under 30kmh when it works as a traction control.

1066Boy wrote: I have driven the newer LR products off road with the traction control and i dont
like it. You have to attack things much harder, rather than gently feel your way through.
Yes it works but its not a replacement for a difflock in my opinion.

I don't think you have to attack anything to make TCS work. But it works by applying load, so you need a few revs to keep the wheels rotating.

There are some drivers, who as so as the vehicle stops, lift off the throttle. And claim the TCS doesn't work. But that's generally poor driving style and a lack of understanding of how the system works.

On the flip side, you don't need to floor it, or hit obstacles at higher speed to make the TCS work, just maintain your throttle input, or ever so slightly increase it.

I agree it isn't a complete substitute for full on lockers. But it has it's own advantages, such as generally being more gentle to the drive train, maintains full steering lock and turning radius. And importantly is an automatically activated system, not requiring additional driver input or decision making.


If the new Jimny can do the same out of the box, then it would be most impressive.


The new Defender in this vid has TCS, at approx 58 sec there is a good demonstration of it working. No need to 'attack' at all.