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Swift 1.6vvt engine into a 2007 vvt jimny project

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23 Jun 2018 10:12 #193762 by Jjbradshaw1
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Hmm yeah that makes sense, this build is already getting a bit out of hand for a run about! I should probably just stick with the m13 manifolds and maybe cut the cat out and fab an exhaust from there.

It just makes me sad knowing the m16 is good for 125bhp but it’s going to be restricted by 1.3 parts!

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23 Jun 2018 10:46 #193763 by gilburton
I agree just run it as is. You will get a boost with the larger capacity and torque. More than enough for road use but if you wish to modify it further that can be done later as time/money will allow.
Don't forget it's low geared so although you will get there faster and/or it will be more flexible in the high gears it probably won't need more power for road use. Unless you go the old Vitara fat boy route and make it handle better? lol

I started off high and worked my way down ever since :-)

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23 Jun 2018 21:29 #193775 by Jjbradshaw1
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Don't start me off Alistair, Now you've mentioned improving the handling its got me thinking how cool a lowered jimny with some low profile semi slicks and maybe some torsion bars would be!

It's never going to be a Ferrari, I just want it to be a bit nippier than 80mph downhill with a tailwind revving its nuts off.

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24 Jun 2018 08:40 #193777 by OlaGB
I run the same SSS motor in mine, for 2 months now.. Stock Jimny intake/exhaust.
It run`s flawless, no fault codes or any strange behaviour. But it sure does not have the 125hp it has in the Swift. It`s alot better than stock ofcourse, but i`m sure theres more in there, just gotta find it.
Even on 98oct fuel, i can still make it ignition knock when i provoce it. This happens only when motor is good and warm (30min+ drive), and i push it hard uphill in 3rd or heavier gear at 4000rpm and up. You got to listen for it (as in turn down the stereo), but it`s actually quite alot.
Seems to be lean in high rpm`s (which makes it knock), and rich down low.

I`m planning on a remap, after i fit a better intake/TB (from the M18 motor), and maybe some exhaust mods. Hoping for a few more HP, a better torque down low , and hopefully be able to run 95oct fuel due to availability and price.
I am conviced theres power to be found in a remap on this motor. Not just higher hp numbers, but also better driveability, like stronger resistance against stalling, a better torque curve etc.

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24 Jun 2018 21:29 #193799 by Jjbradshaw1
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A remap does sound like it would help out a lot with the AFR but how open is the Jimny ECU to being remapped and can it be mapped/altered to the extent required for the 1.6?

Also, do you lose out on the extra RPM available to the 1.6 as the Jimny limiter is 6000rpm and I believe the swift sport is 6800? I could be wrong there mind you!

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25 Jun 2018 03:54 #193804 by OlaGB
Acc to the dyno tuning company i talked to, there wasnt a problem mapping and flashing the ecu.

The rpm limiter is not holding back on any power, but the map might be doing that.
Probably intake/exhaust as well, as i can tell the maf sensor has its max reading well before 6000rpm.
Ill update my own thread about it, when i get the intake in the mail. Will be doing some tests before/after intake etc.

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25 Jun 2018 09:28 - 25 Jun 2018 09:36 #193807 by sniper
I've asked around here in North Notts. / South Yorks. and they have not been able to overwrite the Denso ECU in my 05'VVT.

That's included a few motorsports specialists, their opinion is to fit a piggyback ECU such as the ME221. An expensive option, probably close to £1100-1200 fitted and mapped on the rollers. Possibly three times that of a standard remap.

The standard inlet and exhaust on the 1.3 looks very restrictive even for 1300cc, it's got to impede the 1600.

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Last edit: 25 Jun 2018 09:36 by sniper. Reason: grammer

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25 Jun 2018 21:48 #193819 by OlaGB

sniper wrote: I've asked around here in North Notts. / South Yorks. and they have not been able to overwrite the Denso ECU in my 05'VVT.

That's included a few motorsports specialists, their opinion is to fit a piggyback ECU such as the ME221. An expensive option, probably close to £1100-1200 fitted and mapped on the rollers. Possibly three times that of a standard remap.

The standard inlet and exhaust on the 1.3 looks very restrictive even for 1300cc, it's got to impede the 1600.

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The ecu can be read and written on bench, using K-tag. Probably other equipment as well.
www.alientech-tools.com/en/2015-suzuki-jimny-1-3l-16v-vvt-85ps/

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25 Jun 2018 22:10 #193820 by sniper
Thanks, I'll contact them tomorrow with the info. Or look again and maybe get some better tuners........

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12 Jan 2019 17:10 #200592 by invincible
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HEY GILBURTON, so use the 1.6 injectors dont swap the jimnys 1.3 ones, i,m just thinking of doing this myself but doing as much homework on here before hand.
i take it you wont have the swift engine anymore? so would you say i could buy what they care a bare engine a swap all bits over ? whats a ball park figure for a pre 2010 engine from a swift, ive been told that dont get a post 2010 as it has a crank sensor and the ecu wont work? cheers for any pointers, ta Liam.

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12 Jan 2019 17:18 #200593 by invincible
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sorry guys i posted the above aftering reading page 2 and its ended up at the en here, ive read all the pages and my questions are answered sorry for being forum dumb!!

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13 Jan 2019 21:22 #200679 by invincible
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stupid question why swap the crank pulley?

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