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Gen 4 Rear Seat Belt removal
19 Nov 2021 01:19 #240197
by Kiwi38
Gen 4 Rear Seat Belt removal was created by Kiwi38
I've removed the rear seats from my new 2021 Jimny and plan to put in a flat floor.
I've a question for anyone who might have already removed the rear belts.
There's a plug fitted that's not immediately obvious how to remove it, or indeed, if it's removable. See attached pics for the offending item.
It looks a little nanny state and I wonder if there are unforeseen consequences to its removal? I could bundle the belt section up in a cloth and stow it inside the shell but it would be tidier to take out the whole unit. Thanks in advance for your help.
Cheers, Bill
I've a question for anyone who might have already removed the rear belts.
There's a plug fitted that's not immediately obvious how to remove it, or indeed, if it's removable. See attached pics for the offending item.
It looks a little nanny state and I wonder if there are unforeseen consequences to its removal? I could bundle the belt section up in a cloth and stow it inside the shell but it would be tidier to take out the whole unit. Thanks in advance for your help.
Cheers, Bill
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19 Nov 2021 09:23 #240200
by Roger Fairclough
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Good morning Bill and welcome to the forum.
Your thoughts and my thoughts jelled on this subject. I have removed the seats, so lets remove the belts.
Except it is not that simple!
I found the connection to the electronics and removed the little clip. So far so good. With the belts removed I switched on the ignition and the little light on the dash came on. Put seat belts on. I tried bypassing the connection. No joy. I thought about this and I thought about that but electronics are not my forte so in the end I re-connected the belts and stuffed/taped them inside the bodywork. At least they are out of sight.
Roger
Your thoughts and my thoughts jelled on this subject. I have removed the seats, so lets remove the belts.
Except it is not that simple!
I found the connection to the electronics and removed the little clip. So far so good. With the belts removed I switched on the ignition and the little light on the dash came on. Put seat belts on. I tried bypassing the connection. No joy. I thought about this and I thought about that but electronics are not my forte so in the end I re-connected the belts and stuffed/taped them inside the bodywork. At least they are out of sight.
Roger
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19 Nov 2021 18:20 #240217
by Kiwi38
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Thanks for the reply. I'll ask the dealer if this is something they can turn off just in case it's simple for them to code. I guess Suzuki had to do something similar for the UK van model.
Otherwise I'll just follow your lead and hide them away.
Otherwise I'll just follow your lead and hide them away.
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19 Nov 2021 19:46 #240218
by lightning
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ls that not a pyrotechnic belt tensioner? lt so l would be careful what wires you short out.
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19 Nov 2021 20:01 #240220
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Kiwi 38.
Please let me know how you get on.
Roger
Please let me know how you get on.
Roger
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19 Nov 2021 20:08 - 19 Nov 2021 20:23 #240221
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Gen 4 Rear Seat Belt removal
If its the circuit (little plug) that goes onto the rear seat belt mechanism at the bottom of the rear pillar then it is the seat belt pre-tensioner circuit
Obviously you have to be careful with any part of the active restraint system. The recommended way to work is with the battery negative disconnected and the "A/B" fuse removed, waiting at least 90 seconds for the system to discharge any residual electricity.
The pre-tensioner circuit is continually tested by the Airbag system and will put up error messages if it is disconnected. I believe it is not a sophisticated test, it simply looks for a resistance in the circuit as per the table below
I believe you could put a simple resistor across the connections to make it think the pre-tensioner is still there
I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS. YOU PLAY WITH THE SAFETY SYSTEM AT YOUR OWN PERIL.
Obviously you have to be careful with any part of the active restraint system. The recommended way to work is with the battery negative disconnected and the "A/B" fuse removed, waiting at least 90 seconds for the system to discharge any residual electricity.
The pre-tensioner circuit is continually tested by the Airbag system and will put up error messages if it is disconnected. I believe it is not a sophisticated test, it simply looks for a resistance in the circuit as per the table below
I believe you could put a simple resistor across the connections to make it think the pre-tensioner is still there
I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS. YOU PLAY WITH THE SAFETY SYSTEM AT YOUR OWN PERIL.
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Last edit: 19 Nov 2021 20:23 by mlines.
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