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Gearbox whine and woes!!!! '05 plate VVT
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19 Aug 2019 16:42 #212309
by eddlane
Gearbox whine and woes!!!! '05 plate VVT was created by eddlane
Hey guys,
So it seems like my Jimny is determined to collect the whole set of generic issues that could possibly affect Jimny's......
I think something is up with the gearbox, I have no mechanical knowledge and this would be a garage job.
Basically its got a really loud sort of whine, like the usual gearbox whine but much louder, it happens more when I'm going faster but the odd thing is it seems to stop when it has warmed up (or at least improve) and it also still whines whilst I am in neutral and also it still whines with the clutch down.
I took it to my mechanic and he couldn't figure it out, suggesting I contacted a specialist who may of seen it before.
The specialist instantly said bearings and then said that will be £600 job plus £175 for removing the box plus £100+ for a new clutch.
I nearly cried I don't have anywhere near that sort of money.
So, the next solution is try and find a second hand box and my mechanic will fit it for me.
Are these a nightmare to find and how do I know which box I need?
Someone please help!! This Jimny is the most expensive car I've ever bought and I love it but it's cost me a fooooorrrttuuuuuune this year what with an incurable death wobble and other woes and now this!!!
Thanks all.
Hope you can help.
Edd
So it seems like my Jimny is determined to collect the whole set of generic issues that could possibly affect Jimny's......
I think something is up with the gearbox, I have no mechanical knowledge and this would be a garage job.
Basically its got a really loud sort of whine, like the usual gearbox whine but much louder, it happens more when I'm going faster but the odd thing is it seems to stop when it has warmed up (or at least improve) and it also still whines whilst I am in neutral and also it still whines with the clutch down.
I took it to my mechanic and he couldn't figure it out, suggesting I contacted a specialist who may of seen it before.
The specialist instantly said bearings and then said that will be £600 job plus £175 for removing the box plus £100+ for a new clutch.
I nearly cried I don't have anywhere near that sort of money.
So, the next solution is try and find a second hand box and my mechanic will fit it for me.
Are these a nightmare to find and how do I know which box I need?
Someone please help!! This Jimny is the most expensive car I've ever bought and I love it but it's cost me a fooooorrrttuuuuuune this year what with an incurable death wobble and other woes and now this!!!
Thanks all.
Hope you can help.
Edd
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19 Aug 2019 16:50 - 19 Aug 2019 16:52 #212311
by mlines
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:Gearbox whine and woes!!!! '05 plate VVT
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but a replacement gearbox will be at least as expensive as getting the old one fixed.
These boxes have known issues and the scrap parts market knows it, so they charge the earth for a second hand box of dubious origin. Watch out for "refurbished" boxes where all they have done is given it a coat of paint
I would look at a rebuild with you doing some of the work. For example my local gearbox specialist used to charge £350 for the box rebuild if you had already removed it from the car etc
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These boxes have known issues and the scrap parts market knows it, so they charge the earth for a second hand box of dubious origin. Watch out for "refurbished" boxes where all they have done is given it a coat of paint
I would look at a rebuild with you doing some of the work. For example my local gearbox specialist used to charge £350 for the box rebuild if you had already removed it from the car etc
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Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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19 Aug 2019 16:53 #212312
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Thank you!
Yes, my only worry is I don't know enough about it to know that it is definitely the gearbox causing the issue, I'd hate to spend so much money to find out its the clutch or the transfer box or something like that.
That company said it would be £600 if I removed it myself and then still plus clutch.
Thanks for the reply!
Yes, my only worry is I don't know enough about it to know that it is definitely the gearbox causing the issue, I'd hate to spend so much money to find out its the clutch or the transfer box or something like that.
That company said it would be £600 if I removed it myself and then still plus clutch.
Thanks for the reply!
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19 Aug 2019 17:01 #212313
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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Is it worse in 3rd and 4th gear
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Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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19 Aug 2019 17:22 #212314
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Yeh I think I noticed it being worse in 4th, at low speeds you can't really notice it in the first few gears as soon as you start going above 30-40mph ish and into the higher gears it does it. Its just weird it gets better when warm and if its gearbox would it still do it in neutral and with the clutch depressed? The clutch also feels a bit weird when I press it down when it makes the noise, kind of like gritty at a certain point with some vibration through the pedal I think.
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19 Aug 2019 17:30 #212315
by Riccy
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
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Replied by Riccy on topic Gearbox whine and woes!!!! '05 plate VVT
Typically the rear prop starts to leak first at the gearbox end, so have a look at the prop joining the gearbox to transfer box.
If its all oily at the gearbox end then it is likely gearbox. If its all nice and dry then try getting a new clutch fitted first (that should be less than £200 all in)
If the transfer box is all oily, they are about £100-200 to replace 2nd hand and an easy diy job to fit.
If its all oily at the gearbox end then it is likely gearbox. If its all nice and dry then try getting a new clutch fitted first (that should be less than £200 all in)

If the transfer box is all oily, they are about £100-200 to replace 2nd hand and an easy diy job to fit.
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
www.youtube.com/user/riclemus
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