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14 Jan 2018 07:43 #188351
by Riccy
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
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Finally got round to taking the Jimny for a wheel alignment yesterday.
Garage got it on the ramps and said they couldn't track it as there was so much play in the steering
So my question is where to start looking? I have trailgear HD steering bars with new beefy rod ends, HD panard's and all the bushes (everywhere) are superpro. Wheel bearings are about 12 months old, kingpin bearings about 8 months.
Current thinking is its one of these:
1. steering box goosed,
2. wheel bearings,
3. Kingpins and/or bearings
Obviously the 31" tyres wont help as well as the green laning!
Riccy
Garage got it on the ramps and said they couldn't track it as there was so much play in the steering

So my question is where to start looking? I have trailgear HD steering bars with new beefy rod ends, HD panard's and all the bushes (everywhere) are superpro. Wheel bearings are about 12 months old, kingpin bearings about 8 months.
Current thinking is its one of these:
1. steering box goosed,
2. wheel bearings,
3. Kingpins and/or bearings
Obviously the 31" tyres wont help as well as the green laning!
Riccy
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
www.youtube.com/user/riclemus
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14 Jan 2018 09:58 #188356
by Lambert
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Replied by Lambert on topic slack steering issue
I would start with lifting the front wheels and systematically feeling for play in the system, this will be easier with an assistant to work the wheels while you're underneath though it is possible on your own.
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14 Jan 2018 12:41 #188362
by Daniel30
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I'm surprised they didn't have a quick look for you while it was up in the air? Sure a little wiggle about and they could have given you an idea of were the play was?
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14 Jan 2018 12:53 #188363
by mlines
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
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235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:slack steering issue
There is a small amount of "adjustment" using the nut on top of the steering box, technically this is a torque adjustment but it does take out some slack. Do not tighten out all slack though as the box will break
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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14 Jan 2018 13:07 #188364
by Lambert
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Replied by Lambert on topic Re:slack steering issue
I'm sure I read somewhere that the nut is best adjusted on one or other full lock rather than the centre ahead position?
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14 Jan 2018 13:36 #188365
by Riccy
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
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Thanks for the helpful replys everyone.
This mornings job (to fix the coolant leak from when i swapped the engine and had water pump issues) involved removing the inlet manifold. Not related to this issue, but did mean i could see the steering column and move it and watch what the pitman arm on the steering box does.
Result is the pitman arm was moving even with the slightest movement on the steering. This leads me to think the steering box is ok. The adjustment is handy to know about tho.
Reading a bit in the service manual (cheers for that again Dan) points towards wheel bearings. Joy. My favourite
BTW, the garage had it back off the ramp and in the car park as soon as poss. I think they were scared of it! Also saying that the factory tracking settings wouldnt be any use, so they wouldnt know what to set it to. methinks they didnt want the job, or any come back. Theres only toe-in that can be adjusted anyway?
Riccy
This mornings job (to fix the coolant leak from when i swapped the engine and had water pump issues) involved removing the inlet manifold. Not related to this issue, but did mean i could see the steering column and move it and watch what the pitman arm on the steering box does.
Result is the pitman arm was moving even with the slightest movement on the steering. This leads me to think the steering box is ok. The adjustment is handy to know about tho.
Reading a bit in the service manual (cheers for that again Dan) points towards wheel bearings. Joy. My favourite

BTW, the garage had it back off the ramp and in the car park as soon as poss. I think they were scared of it! Also saying that the factory tracking settings wouldnt be any use, so they wouldnt know what to set it to. methinks they didnt want the job, or any come back. Theres only toe-in that can be adjusted anyway?
Riccy
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
www.youtube.com/user/riclemus
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