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How good are G3 Brakes?
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10 Dec 2021 17:53 #240587
by Scimike
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
Replied by Scimike on topic How good are G3 Brakes?
Thanks all, some interesting points and suggestions.
Rear disks are not for me. As said a good investment if you hit the mud, but it's the fronts doing most of the work and the current vehicle balance feels fine.
Roger - Your test stop is similar to what I am experiencing. It initially felt ok, but more pressure by my foot did little more, "wooden" is my description.
Maybe the ABS did kick in, but in the past I have always been aware when this happens, I can feel the pulses in the pedal, this time I did not feel this which is why I suspect it did not. I will try it again this weekend without the added distraction of a real object to hit, maybe I did not notice as I my concentration was on avoidance duty.
Lambert - On the fence with EBC green stuff, not sure it's worth the price difference. I think I will give it a try when the pads need replacing.
I think I will start with the simple stuff assuming my weekend ABS test confirms I can't get it going on dry roads.
Mike
Rear disks are not for me. As said a good investment if you hit the mud, but it's the fronts doing most of the work and the current vehicle balance feels fine.
Roger - Your test stop is similar to what I am experiencing. It initially felt ok, but more pressure by my foot did little more, "wooden" is my description.
Maybe the ABS did kick in, but in the past I have always been aware when this happens, I can feel the pulses in the pedal, this time I did not feel this which is why I suspect it did not. I will try it again this weekend without the added distraction of a real object to hit, maybe I did not notice as I my concentration was on avoidance duty.
Lambert - On the fence with EBC green stuff, not sure it's worth the price difference. I think I will give it a try when the pads need replacing.
I think I will start with the simple stuff assuming my weekend ABS test confirms I can't get it going on dry roads.
- My front calipers should be OK as I service at each pad change, but it's possible they are starting to seize up, so simple service.
- My rear shoes are probably original and I've not seen them for 3 years, so I'll service and fit new.
- Guilty as most of never changing my brake fluid, so time to change. As I plan to chang the fluid I may consider new hoses on the front, also maybe now past their best.
Mike
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
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10 Dec 2021 18:02 #240588
by Roger Fairclough
Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic How good are G3 Brakes?
Mike.
I never felt any pulsing which, to me, is an indication as to how well modern ABS systems work. EBC do not appear to make pads for a Gen.4 so can't comment.
On my LC the hoses were original ( 25 years old ) and showed no deterioration.
Roger
I never felt any pulsing which, to me, is an indication as to how well modern ABS systems work. EBC do not appear to make pads for a Gen.4 so can't comment.
On my LC the hoses were original ( 25 years old ) and showed no deterioration.
Roger
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10 Dec 2021 18:29 #240589
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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Replied by Lambert on topic How good are G3 Brakes?
The thing with ebc is that the more you work them the better they get within reason. On Dreadnaught I had higher boiling point fluid and that made it possible to keep going when really trying especially on track. I'm not sure if I intend to do it again for Temeraire as she doesn't lend to such frantic behaviour. Also having just replaced the brakes on my main livestock trailer with 200x50s instead of 203x40s I'm hoping that now I won't be pushing Temeraire so hard on the downhills. It's all about minimised risk exposure.
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
Bellerophon (2024 grello van daily
ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!
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10 Dec 2021 23:16 #240595
by LM42
Replied by LM42 on topic Re:How good are G3 Brakes?
Best reason for rear disc conversion is the service to do the rear wheel bearing takes ages with drums, and an hour with disks, if anything drum gives a better hand brake action, but prefer discs 100% , done 2 conversions so far, and a third soon
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