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Re:Re:ABS Error - Stop Lamp Circuit (C1016/DTC 16)

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11 Oct 2019 14:01 #214612 by sss360
Hi All,

I've recently found that the ABS on my Jimny is not working and I assume a previous owner has disguised this by putting some tape over the light under the speedo so the ABS indicator wasn't displaying. Now I can see the ABS light I interpreted the error and it's throwing the DTC 16 "Stop Lamp Circuit". Frustrating somebody bodged it rather than fixed properly, but here we are...

The brake light wiring has also been replaced at some stage and this (single) wire now runs from the switch under the pedal down the offside body rather than with the original wiring on the nearside. I think chances are that when the brake light wiring was replaced it wasn't correctly patched into the ABS circuit so, consequently, the ABS control module doesn't detect any voltage from the stop lamp circuit and the ABS is disabled.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could remedy this? I am not an auto electrician by any means but I am hoping it's a simple fix by completing the circuit.

Cheers,

James

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11 Oct 2019 14:04 #214613 by mlines
Have they fitted LED bulbs or an led light unit?

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11 Oct 2019 14:14 - 11 Oct 2019 14:17 #214614 by sss360
Thanks for the quick reply, Martin.

No, good question though as I read the other thread where you diagnosed the error to be this. The pic attached shows the standard bulb and also the crudly "scotch locked" brake wire to the light.
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11 Oct 2019 14:22 - 11 Oct 2019 14:30 #214616 by sss360
Also, attached is a pic of the wiring diagram from the manual and I've drawn where the new brake wire now runs to/from :)

Could the E142-12 have been bypassed by the new brake wire? Looking at it again I think this could be the case?
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12 Oct 2019 07:28 #214646 by Scimike
So are we suggesting that the ABS system is monitoring the rear brake light load ? I.E reduced load of LED causes system to fail.
Looking at the circuit diagram above I can't see how it can measure load, just possibly volts present (brakes on).
Can anyone explain. Just interested and hopefully any answers may help.

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12 Oct 2019 07:33 #214647 by mlines
LEDs present a different load so the volt drop is different. You need LEDs with a built in load for it to work.

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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses

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