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Rear inner wheel arch liner?

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09 Oct 2018 11:17 #196589 by mlines
Replied by mlines on topic Rear inner wheel arch liner?
There is no such thing as inner liners for the rear arches I am afraid.

Take a good look at the floor pan around the body mount by the front seat seatbelt points as this is another rust point. Then cover with something like the Buzzweld range of paints.

Martin - or perhaps speedboatmartin :)

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12 Oct 2018 07:17 #196696 by kirkynut
In the main you don't want them. They hold in muck and moisture, leading to rust.

Cleaning and painting before rust is best.

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12 Oct 2018 11:16 - 12 Oct 2018 11:32 #196702 by Scimike
I can't blame the plastic liners for Suzukis woefully inadequate rust protection, but they are an excuse used by most manufacturers not to protect the area behind further. If you can remember the days before wheel arch liners , i.e back in the 70's Hillman and early fords, the top of the wings was a mud trap and soon rotted through. Liners stopped this overnight. Imagine our Jimny's with the primer only under wing protection, how long do you think that will last!
I believe the front mount rot is not due to the liner, its poor seam sealing on the multi layer metal joint below the headlamp which also doubles as a water drain route. Poor design meets poor rust prevention equals rot spot. They are guilty however of hiding this rot spot until its too late to do anything.
I for one would keep the liners, I believe they offer more protection than running the vehicle without.
However it is a wise to remove them and rust proof underneath, also treat the mounts with wax at least once before the rot starts. If you do remove them I would suggest you need to add a protective coating under the wings or the vacuum tank (switch 4x4) and wing tops / A pillar will be your new rot spots.
Of course just in my humble opinion.

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12 Oct 2018 13:35 #196707 by kirkynut
I think if you prepare these areas before they rust and wash them out regularly to stop muck building up you are best off, however, this best situation means you must do both and relies upon you to do so.

It would be nice if you only had to do the washing off because the manufacturer had prepared it and rust proofed it first.

When you do the type of off roading I've historically done, you do not want wheel arch liners as they will get full if mud behind, which will stay wet for a long time and cause rust. Muddy water gets in everywhere but only the water comes back out!

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20 Oct 2018 07:57 #196892 by Speedboatsteve
Replied by Speedboatsteve on topic Rear inner wheel arch liner?
Thanks everyone for the replies.

Sadly I think I am way past the point of preventing the rust however your input has given me places to look so I can treat it.
My Jimny is 20 years old and the last owner lived right by the coast so you can imagine the extent of the rust. That said I'm not giving up, I've been away, hence my delay in my reply and I'm now eager to get started again.

Right, time to crack on. :)

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