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4WD All the time??

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07 Dec 2013 10:35 #94896 by jonesyba420
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I only use 4wd when I fail to proceed in 2wd ;)

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07 Dec 2013 22:58 #94973 by helijohn
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Kieran678 wrote: Why is this not advisable, just wondered?


Just imagine the rear axle trying to catch up with the front axle.................bang. :laugh: :laugh:

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08 Dec 2013 20:51 #95065 by mlines
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A mechanism called the differential allows rotating parts to turn at different speeds to each other.

Jimnys have two differentials,one in each axle, this allows the inside wheels to rotate at a different speed to the outside wheels,necessary for going around corners in 2 wheel drive.

Permanent 4 Wheel Drive cars (NOT JIMNYS!) have third differential mounted in the transmission, this allows the front axle to rotate at a different speed to the rear axle, necessary for going around corners in 4 wheel drive.

As the Jimny does not have this differential then the front and rear axles are locked together in 4 wheel drive and therefore cannot go around corners unless there is some slip in the system (i.e. a loose or slippery surface) to allow rotational tension in the system to be dissipated. Driving on a surface where this tension cannot be release results in something expensive having to break to release the tension.

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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
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08 Dec 2013 21:31 #95076 by helijohn
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mlines wrote: A mechanism called the differential allows rotating parts to turn at different speeds to each other.

Jimnys have two differentials,one in each axle, this allows the inside wheels to rotate at a different speed to the outside wheels,necessary for going around corners in 2 wheel drive.

Permanent 4 Wheel Drive cars (NOT JIMNYS!) have third differential mounted in the transmission, this allows the front axle to rotate at a different speed to the rear axle, necessary for going around corners in 4 wheel drive.

As the Jimny does not have this differential then the front and rear axles are locked together in 4 wheel drive and therefore cannot go around corners unless there is some slip in the system (i.e. a loose or slippery surface) to allow rotational tension in the system to be dissipated. Driving on a surface where this tension cannot be release results in something expensive having to break to release the tension.


It's a hard concept to visualise - we push prams around all day and such like and get used to the scrubbing - and I have never found a good way to explain it to the likes of SWOM but isn't it about simply straight line driving forgetting corners for the moment. The fronts (wheels, axle whatever) are not rotating at the same revs as the back and even if they were meant to the tyre wear and other factors would still have an effect. So running at two different speeds causes the catch up effect.

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08 Dec 2013 21:50 #95079 by jonesyba420
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This is what we believe has happened to my dads defender, we think difflock engaged itself on the a14 going 60 transmission swiftly wound up and something went bang. Yet to fully diagnose the fault but we suspect centre diff or t box.

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08 Dec 2013 21:56 #95080 by helijohn
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jonesyba420 wrote: This is what we believe has happened to my dads defender, we think difflock engaged itself on the a14 going 60 transmission swiftly wound up and something went bang. Yet to fully diagnose the fault but we suspect centre diff or t box.


Blimey it must be a poor design if it can engage willy nilly.

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