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Oil for Gen 4 Jimny
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27 Oct 2023 20:22 #251826
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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Replied by Lambert on topic Oil for Gen 4 Jimny
Just out of curiosity where has this idea come from because it really sounds like the sort of thing you get told by a mate of a mate who knows a man in the pub who once cleaned the canteen at the Dagenham Ford factory and knows everything they don't want to become common knowledge? I ask because I was told by euro car parts that my land cruiser needed 5w40 but it ran like garbage after that oil change and upon investigation it was supposed to be 0w20 from memory and after another change was back to normal, they also got me with an alleged gl4/5 compatible gearbox oil when I had a manual and once warm that wouldn't change out of 5th, swapped for the correct gl4 and back to normal.
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One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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28 Oct 2023 06:17 #251829
by rogerzilla
Replied by rogerzilla on topic Oil for Gen 4 Jimny
Sometimes manufacturers get it wrong. Owners of original MX-5s often suffer with stuck hydraulic tappets (HLAs) and Mobil 1 0W40 seems to be the best way to keep the problem at bay, once you've cleared the offending tappet(s) with Wynn's hydraulic lifter treatment or, oddly, a shot of ATF just before an oil change.
Using the 10W30 mineral oil (I think), as Mazda recommend, means the problem comes back straight away. It doesn't have the penetrating and flushing ability.
Using the 10W30 mineral oil (I think), as Mazda recommend, means the problem comes back straight away. It doesn't have the penetrating and flushing ability.
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28 Oct 2023 07:30 #251830
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
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Replied by Lambert on topic Oil for Gen 4 Jimny
But there are no reports to suggest that the jimny is coming out of the factory with any kind of oil or lubrication issues and some of the earlier gen4s are really starting to gain milage now.
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28 Oct 2023 16:22 #251846
by BigJimy
Replied by BigJimy on topic Oil for Gen 4 Jimny
150 miles later, no issues yet, at least nothing i can notice
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28 Oct 2023 20:50 - 28 Oct 2023 20:54 #251850
by lightning
Replied by lightning on topic Oil for Gen 4 Jimny
Using 5w/40 oil in a Land Cruiser engine shouldn't in itself make it "run like garbage"
Unless you are at the North Pole.
There may possibly have been some other issue with it and it was just coincidence the oil was changed at that time.
Unless you are at the North Pole.
There may possibly have been some other issue with it and it was just coincidence the oil was changed at that time.
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29 Oct 2023 05:09 #251854
by Lambert
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Dunno but it made it quieter and easier to start and the symptoms came and went with the wrong oil. But unless the dealer can fix the electrical leak it's on borrowed time anyway.
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02 Nov 2023 00:19 #251910
by Chops
Replied by Chops on topic Oil for Gen 4 Jimny
Considering it doesn't have a high pressure fuel pump I am very, very confident it's still a port injection motor. Turbo Swift Sports (K14C) motors are direct injection, though
Out of interest, is the 1.5 engine direct injection, and is the 0W16 oil API SN or SP? The Ecstar 0W20 is SN but the latest SP has some advantages for GDI engines. I can't find a spec for the 0W16 anywhere.
I believe its a direct injection. My post above for what I put. And here is some info for the 0w16
ecstareurope.com/pdf/Ecstar_product_catalog_EN.pdf
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02 Nov 2023 09:25 #251911
by rogerzilla
Replied by rogerzilla on topic Oil for Gen 4 Jimny
Another reason to buy a Jimny - port injection is much less trouble and creates less nasty stuff in the exhaust.
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21 Nov 2023 01:16 #252253
by BigJimy
Replied by BigJimy on topic Oil for Gen 4 Jimny
I would delete the catalysators, no brainer too, but cannot find inox manifold on the Ali, or some other place
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21 Nov 2023 08:09 #252256
by mlines
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Oil for Gen 4 Jimny
It looks like port injection to me. The actual Suzuki description is "multi-point fuel injection system located above the inlet valve". Visually the injectors are screwed into the head directly above where the intake manifold bolts to the head. As it is above the inlet valve, this would be port injection to me.
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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21 Nov 2023 14:16 #252273
by Wailin
Are you actually implying that someone using a slightly different grade of oil is committing an offence and should be fined? Wow
Replied by Wailin on topic Oil for Gen 4 Jimny
Busta post=251793
Also:Under the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations (Regulations 61(7) and 61A(3)) and the Road Traffic Act 1988 (Section 42) it is an offence to use on a road a vehicle which has been modified in such a way that it no longer complies with the air pollutant emissions standards it was designed to meet.The potential penalties are £1,000 for a car and £2,500 for a van, lorry or bus.True, but they have also tested that it does the job required e.g. lubricating the engine efficiently for the life of the vehicle. They aren't just winging it with what they think they can get away with.
Whilst I'm not against people tinkering, this idea that you should change things simply because it doesn't look/feel right to you is silly.
Are you actually implying that someone using a slightly different grade of oil is committing an offence and should be fined? Wow
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21 Nov 2023 18:36 #252278
by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic Oil for Gen 4 Jimny
No I'm not implying it.
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