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Re:Re:Is my 2011 Jimny gearbox dying?
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22 Jun 2021 19:31 #236054
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Is my 2011 Jimny gearbox dying? was created by Podge
I've been using the Jimny daily for the last month really.
Generally fine but in the last few weeks almost imperceptibly, 3rd and 4th are getting noisier, along with 2nd and 1st, 5th is still quiet enough, I'd kinda convinced myself that it's always been this noisy but I've started doubting myself now. Noisier in gear when off the throttle but in gear, worst in 4th.
Now I've got a new sound which is almost like this cyclical rhythmic noise, increasing with engine speed when in gear, again worst in 3rd/4th but present in other gears too.
I'm guessing this is the gearbox dying. I thought that the R72 was modified in 2009 with better seals to improve reliability.
It's a 2011 m13a with 99,000 miles. It had new fluid in the transfer box, gearbox and diffs 10,000 miles ago.
What's the cost for a refurbished box and fitting? I take it, it's close to a grand?
I've attached a video of the noise, generally 2nd and 3rd gear pottering about the place below 30.
Generally fine but in the last few weeks almost imperceptibly, 3rd and 4th are getting noisier, along with 2nd and 1st, 5th is still quiet enough, I'd kinda convinced myself that it's always been this noisy but I've started doubting myself now. Noisier in gear when off the throttle but in gear, worst in 4th.
Now I've got a new sound which is almost like this cyclical rhythmic noise, increasing with engine speed when in gear, again worst in 3rd/4th but present in other gears too.
I'm guessing this is the gearbox dying. I thought that the R72 was modified in 2009 with better seals to improve reliability.
It's a 2011 m13a with 99,000 miles. It had new fluid in the transfer box, gearbox and diffs 10,000 miles ago.
What's the cost for a refurbished box and fitting? I take it, it's close to a grand?
I've attached a video of the noise, generally 2nd and 3rd gear pottering about the place below 30.
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22 Jun 2021 20:22 - 22 Jun 2021 20:23 #236057
by Scimike
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
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Its so difficult to tell from a phone recording, they can make everything sound metallic as standard.
Yes the potential issue was fixed from 2009 with a sealed bearing in place of an open type.
I believe its failure is usually accompanied with the inability to select gears, but I am not 100% certain.
Rebuild kits for DIY are about £130, expect higher if you want genuine Suzuki parts. Fitted recon boxes are about £1100, I guess you can pay more or less, but you are not getting much change from £1000.
Secondhand boxes are about (£500 ish), but how do you know what you will get unless you find one from a low miles late build Jimny.
Me - I would drain the oil and look for bits. If it's clean carry on until something happens or look at other transmission parts. Axle and transfer box are all possible sources for strange noises.
Good luckMike
Yes the potential issue was fixed from 2009 with a sealed bearing in place of an open type.
I believe its failure is usually accompanied with the inability to select gears, but I am not 100% certain.
Rebuild kits for DIY are about £130, expect higher if you want genuine Suzuki parts. Fitted recon boxes are about £1100, I guess you can pay more or less, but you are not getting much change from £1000.
Secondhand boxes are about (£500 ish), but how do you know what you will get unless you find one from a low miles late build Jimny.
Me - I would drain the oil and look for bits. If it's clean carry on until something happens or look at other transmission parts. Axle and transfer box are all possible sources for strange noises.
Good luckMike
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
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22 Jun 2021 21:01 #236059
by mlines
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235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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The old gearbox failure issue is usually very rapid once it starts. Loud whining in high gears followed by loss of the gears and then failure. My sons went from a sudden loud whine to no high gears in 500 metres. I then later nursed it 5 miles to a gearbox specialist and it was all but dead when I arrived
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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26 Jun 2021 19:31 #236165
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Thanks Martin.
That's my fear. I've parked it up for the while until I can reassess.
I'm going to change the gearbox oil for what it's worth and see if there's any metal bits. Otherwise it's really keep an eye out for a reconditioned box at a reasonable price. They really are rather expensive.
That's my fear. I've parked it up for the while until I can reassess.
I'm going to change the gearbox oil for what it's worth and see if there's any metal bits. Otherwise it's really keep an eye out for a reconditioned box at a reasonable price. They really are rather expensive.
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26 Jun 2021 20:17 #236167
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Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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If it hasn't actually failed it can be cheaper to rebuild it rather than but another used one of unknown origin or condition.
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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26 Jun 2021 21:04 #236168
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