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21 Aug 2020 20:49 #227125
by mlines
Ok, but be assured I get regular calls from people for parts where they have simply broken and fallen off with no load on them at all.
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21 Aug 2020 20:50 #227126
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Reason2doubt wrote:
Olliecarr25 wrote: I have a roof tent on my stock roof rack I wouldn’t worry about the limit
Love it! Ha. There ends the 30kg debate with 1 photo.
My Dreadnaught will do over 80 mph on the back straight of teesside circuit, that doesn't mean it's right to do the same speed on the one way system round the town centre. Its called personal accountability, just because you have got away with something against the rules the last 99 times doesn't mean that the rules no longer apply or that there won't be consequences if you get caught.
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21 Aug 2020 20:56 #227128
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Busta wrote:
Reason2doubt wrote:
Olliecarr25 wrote: I have a roof tent on my stock roof rack I wouldn’t worry about the limit
Love it! Ha. There ends the 30kg debate with 1 photo.
It doesn't change the limit or the significance of any part of this discussion. It shows that people choose to ignore the limit which has never been disputed.
Here's a picture of my old Jimny towing about 3,000kg.
Based on this evidence can I now recommend everyone ignores the towing capacity? I mean, nothing bad happened so it must be fine.
Dare I say it, but that looks Normal For Norfolk. Sorry.
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21 Aug 2020 21:20 #227132
by Roger Fairclough
Just been reading an article on a LR forum in the states concerning roof rack loads. Old style Defender 75kg, Disco 1 and 2 50 kg. apparently LR recommend that anything over normal and the rack should be unloaded for side slopes.
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21 Aug 2020 21:27 #227135
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that's logical. Relatively tall and also softly sprung vehicle with an additional load placed at the very top has to have a negative impact on said vehicles stability, be that at lower speeds on uneven ground or at higher speed when cornering.
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21 Aug 2020 22:07 #227140
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When I did first put the roof tent on I was worried at first and did drive very steady however I soon noticed it was fine with the additional weight and I always cheek it and make sure it is secure and in my opinion everything is under rated when it comes to strength just so it covers there back if something was to happen
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22 Aug 2020 08:58 #227156
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The 30kg limit for these little bars does seem like quite an arbitrary number if you put it into perspective. It’s so low that it essentially means you should find a different solution - it’s almost a get out for Suzuki. Put a low rating on them so people find a different solution for anything which is anything more than moving a few planks of wood or a up top bike rack.
I hadn’t necessarily meant the 30kg debate (as a whole) just in relation to a roof tent as per the thread topic!
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22 Aug 2020 09:00 #227157
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Busta wrote:
Reason2doubt wrote:
Olliecarr25 wrote: I have a roof tent on my stock roof rack I wouldn’t worry about the limit
Love it! Ha. There ends the 30kg debate with 1 photo.
It doesn't change the limit or the significance of any part of this discussion. It shows that people choose to ignore the limit which has never been disputed.
Here's a picture of my old Jimny towing about 3,000kg.
Based on this evidence can I now recommend everyone ignores the towing capacity? I mean, nothing bad happened so it must be fine.
That’s brilliant! Great photo.
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22 Aug 2020 09:18 #227158
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Reason2doubt wrote: The 30kg limit for these little bars does seem like quite an arbitrary number if you put it into perspective. It’s so low that it essentially means you should find a different solution - it’s almost a get out for Suzuki. Put a low rating on them so people find a different solution for anything which is anything more than moving a few planks of wood or a up top bike rack.
I hadn’t necessarily meant the 30kg debate (as a whole) just in relation to a roof tent as per the thread topic!
As I have said before, Suzuki have good reason to be cautious about anything that will adversely affect the stability of the Jimny. Following the law suit as a result of the appalling actions of the Consumer Reports magazine in America in the mid 80s with the gen2 trying to deliberately tip it over, Suzuki can be forgiven for being sensible.
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22 Aug 2020 11:49 #227161
by Busta
30kg is enough for 2 bikes or a kayak or a roof box full of camping gear. That's pretty useful! I'm not really sure what more you'd expect from a car that only has a total payload of about 300kg. The fact that other much larger SUVs have limits that aren't a lot higher puts it into perspective quite nicely. I think some people forget that the Jimny is a tiny car. It has the same footprint as most superminis. You wouldn't expect to put a roof tent on a Toyota Aygo.
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22 Aug 2020 12:25 #227164
by Keithy
Not really a debate....there is no limit on the roof.....just the plastic and al trim suzuki calls roof bars......30kg is pushing it on those.
We live in a controlling world.....I carry what I like on my roof and drive accordingly.........No strawman needed.
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