A place for more technical discussions. Please make sure you post in the correct section on the site, this way it keeps the site tidy AND ensures you get a more relevant answer.
Connecting a 12v compressor with alligator clips?
- Groenewald
- Topic Author
- New Member
-
Public
Less
More
- Thank you received: 0
25 Nov 2020 09:52 #230381
by Groenewald
Connecting a 12v compressor with alligator clips? was created by Groenewald
I recently got a small 72l air compressor.
Mainly for topping up my tyres after deflating them for dirt roads and offroading.
After connecting the live, some guys suggest using an earth point on the chassis rather than the other terminal on the battery.
On the Jimny what other earth point can I use or is it OK to use the battery terminal?
Mainly for topping up my tyres after deflating them for dirt roads and offroading.
After connecting the live, some guys suggest using an earth point on the chassis rather than the other terminal on the battery.
On the Jimny what other earth point can I use or is it OK to use the battery terminal?
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
25 Nov 2020 10:01 #230382
by 300bhpton
Replied by 300bhpton on topic Connecting a 12v compressor with alligator clips?
All modern cars are negative earth.... hit Google up to see what this means

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
25 Nov 2020 19:30 - 25 Nov 2020 19:35 #230400
by Scimike
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
Replied by Scimike on topic Connecting a 12v compressor with alligator clips?
^^^^ Google should have informed you that the negative battery terminal is connected to the car bodywork, so in an electrical sense they are the same potential. All you need to find is an unpainted area that is connected to the body, a bolt head can be a good point etc.
So for the majority of older and modern vehicles it makes no difference if you connect to the body or the battery terminals.
Then things got complicated and clever.
I believe modern vehicles tend to have a shunt in the negative terminal, it's a device that lets the ECU measure the current being drawn from the battery. This allows for intelligent charging of the battery as the ECU knows how much energy to replace. It's not clear (to me) how much manufactures use this information, but if you connect your compressor directly to the battery terminals the ECU has no idea that energy has been consumed. If you connect to a body earth point and battery +ve the shunt is still in circuit, so it can see the energy used. This may not matter at all, but then it could, that's the bit that's difficult for me to define.
I know on BMW stop / start technology that the battery use is heavily monitored, you can't even swap the battery correctly without connecting software to tell the ECU it's been replaced.
If you have a GEN3 Jimny then none of this matters, it's nice and simple and has no clever tech, connect anywhere you want.
If you are not sure and want to play it safe connect between the body and battery +ve, keeping any potential shunt in circuit.
So for the majority of older and modern vehicles it makes no difference if you connect to the body or the battery terminals.
Then things got complicated and clever.
I believe modern vehicles tend to have a shunt in the negative terminal, it's a device that lets the ECU measure the current being drawn from the battery. This allows for intelligent charging of the battery as the ECU knows how much energy to replace. It's not clear (to me) how much manufactures use this information, but if you connect your compressor directly to the battery terminals the ECU has no idea that energy has been consumed. If you connect to a body earth point and battery +ve the shunt is still in circuit, so it can see the energy used. This may not matter at all, but then it could, that's the bit that's difficult for me to define.
I know on BMW stop / start technology that the battery use is heavily monitored, you can't even swap the battery correctly without connecting software to tell the ECU it's been replaced.
If you have a GEN3 Jimny then none of this matters, it's nice and simple and has no clever tech, connect anywhere you want.
If you are not sure and want to play it safe connect between the body and battery +ve, keeping any potential shunt in circuit.
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
Last edit: 25 Nov 2020 19:35 by Scimike.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Less
More
- Posts: 2051
- Thank you received: 537
25 Nov 2020 23:50 #230408
by DrRobin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
Replied by DrRobin on topic Connecting a 12v compressor with alligator clips?
The general reason for not connecting to the battery is the risk of a spark which can blacken or pit your [soft] battery terminals. In an extreme case if the battery has been gassing (charged very hard) the spark could cause an explosion.
The advice probably comes from jump leads to start another car, then there can be a large current flow when connecting and a large spark. Connecting to the Earth point or chassis avoids damage to the battery terminals.
If your compressor has an on/off switch just make sure it is switched off, then connect wherever is convenient, it won’t make any difference. If it doesn’t have a switch the likely current will be small so it probably won’t make too much difference where you connect.
The advice probably comes from jump leads to start another car, then there can be a large current flow when connecting and a large spark. Connecting to the Earth point or chassis avoids damage to the battery terminals.
If your compressor has an on/off switch just make sure it is switched off, then connect wherever is convenient, it won’t make any difference. If it doesn’t have a switch the likely current will be small so it probably won’t make too much difference where you connect.
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Time to create page: 0.173 seconds