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Jimny was broken into - need advice
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16 Jan 2020 21:58 - 16 Jan 2020 22:09 #217318
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Hey guys,
I'm hoping you can help me with a few questions:
1 - My understanding is that the Jimny doesn't come with an alarm fitted as standard? I've read a few posts on here regarding this, but I'd appreciate some further advice. Can you point me in the direction of an easy to fit alarm that will sound if the car is opened without the keys?
2 - Jimny has an immobiliser right? How does this work in relation to starting the car without the key, for example if it is hot wired?
3 - Whoever tried to steal the Jimny had prised the boot handle / latch off, and accessed the car via the boot, I assume by manually unlocking the boot by pulling the lock mechanism by hand.
4 - What other security measures have you all taken to deter / prevent theft?
Thanks.
I'm hoping you can help me with a few questions:
1 - My understanding is that the Jimny doesn't come with an alarm fitted as standard? I've read a few posts on here regarding this, but I'd appreciate some further advice. Can you point me in the direction of an easy to fit alarm that will sound if the car is opened without the keys?
2 - Jimny has an immobiliser right? How does this work in relation to starting the car without the key, for example if it is hot wired?
3 - Whoever tried to steal the Jimny had prised the boot handle / latch off, and accessed the car via the boot, I assume by manually unlocking the boot by pulling the lock mechanism by hand.
4 - What other security measures have you all taken to deter / prevent theft?
Thanks.
Last edit: 16 Jan 2020 22:09 by happybaisakhi. Reason: Forgot a question
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16 Jan 2020 22:50 #217320
by yakuza
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Replied by yakuza on topic Jimny was broken into - need advice
Theft is a social problem and in the EU it is still on decline. Here in Norway mostly car part theft probably to order, mostly new cars. Like BMW steering wheels and Air bags.
So it is best to make it less appealing for the thief.
Alarm of course or make your car less attractive. I seldom lock my car so if some psych patient should try to get in, he wouldn't need to destroy anything on the car. Most stuff inside is less valuable than the door or window anyway.. I got a cheap car with cheap stereo and keep it messy and dirty inside the car. No sane thief would bother.
So it is best to make it less appealing for the thief.
Alarm of course or make your car less attractive. I seldom lock my car so if some psych patient should try to get in, he wouldn't need to destroy anything on the car. Most stuff inside is less valuable than the door or window anyway.. I got a cheap car with cheap stereo and keep it messy and dirty inside the car. No sane thief would bother.
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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16 Jan 2020 22:57 #217321
by yakuza
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Replied by yakuza on topic Jimny was broken into - need advice
Imobilizer yes. Chip inside the key that must be read into the ecu so no hot wiring is possible as far as I know.
No standard alarm. To prevent damage it should be visible. I got an alarm on my other car, I would prefer it was silent cause it is mostly annoying.
No standard alarm. To prevent damage it should be visible. I got an alarm on my other car, I would prefer it was silent cause it is mostly annoying.
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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17 Jan 2020 05:14 #217323
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
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Security has to be a layered approach so keeping it behind a locked gate, behind a silent entry alarm, then a visual deterrent like a steering wheel lock, then an alarm, then an immobiliser, then a tracking device. It's also a good idea to make it looks unique as it's easier to describe and less appealing to steal.
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!
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17 Jan 2020 08:12 #217326
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Lots of easy fit alarms on the Internet, I suppose you just need one that goes off when the door is opened and triggered by the interior light turning on, although I can't remember if the light comes on when you open the rear door.
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17 Jan 2020 08:39 - 17 Jan 2020 09:32 #217327
by Max Headroom
IF IT AINT BROKE, KEEP FIXING IT UNTIL IT IS
Replied by Max Headroom on topic Jimny was broken into - need advice
I'm sorry to hear of this Happybaisakhi. One can only hope the scum that do this sort of thing end up living very long and unhappy lives.
All I can add to everyone elses comments are not to leave anything that looks valuable ore interesting in the vehicle.
I've heard it said that theives have got clever and can now counter modern technnology but that they have forgotten about and are now thwarted by some of the old-fashioned security methods such as crook-locks.
I've got a couple of open-topped classic cars and it is a worry. I use an expensive version of a Stoplock, and a battery isolation switch and depending on the situation, take the rotor arm out and put it in my pocket when I walk away. If they really want the car they can take it and you will only slow them down.
Up the road from me there is a Jimny I always see parked up with a Disklok - these prevent anyone sawing through the steering wheel but they are big and heavy - no good for my little sportscar
When out and about in the Jimny (a convertible and easy to get into) I'm always choosy about where I park - I never park near an alleyway where kids hang out, prefering to park where there are plenty of people passing by that could witness something - or at night where it's well lit.
At home, you could put up cameras pointing at the vehicle - some dummy cameras are very convincing, this might deter someone that checks the areea first but wouldn't probably be even noticed by a momentary opportunist.
And in the same way some PIR lighting covering the car when it's parked up at night - these are extremely cheap nowadays from big DIY stores.
At the rear of my property we have had scum climb over the wall from the fields at the back but this is now booby-trapped with a couple of rambling roses that have vicious thorns (I hate pruning them). I also have a trip-wire connected to a firing device for a shot-gun cartridge (a blank cartridge, I hasten to add!).
After a break-in down the road the police did their routine rounds asking what security we had and were very impressed by the low-tech tripwire and cartridge. The only thing is , sometimes I've forgotton about it and set it off myself :ohmy: which always requires a change of underwear. :laugh:
Perimeter alarm-mine link
EDIT:
Another thought - if the rear door was defeated they may have been hoping the damage/break in would go unnoticed for a short while.
A simple door-alarm can be made from a personal attack alarm fixed to the door. The pin (which is pulled out to activate the alarm) attatched by way of a short cord to a hook on the floor or anywhere convenient. The cord needs to be long enough that you can just open the door to get to it and unhook it when you need to access the vehicle, but for anyone not realising it is there, they will set it off.
I have similar devices set up on outhouse doors.
Also a simple blinking led on the dash might deter someone even if there is no alarm. Like THIS one
All I can add to everyone elses comments are not to leave anything that looks valuable ore interesting in the vehicle.
I've heard it said that theives have got clever and can now counter modern technnology but that they have forgotten about and are now thwarted by some of the old-fashioned security methods such as crook-locks.
I've got a couple of open-topped classic cars and it is a worry. I use an expensive version of a Stoplock, and a battery isolation switch and depending on the situation, take the rotor arm out and put it in my pocket when I walk away. If they really want the car they can take it and you will only slow them down.
Up the road from me there is a Jimny I always see parked up with a Disklok - these prevent anyone sawing through the steering wheel but they are big and heavy - no good for my little sportscar
When out and about in the Jimny (a convertible and easy to get into) I'm always choosy about where I park - I never park near an alleyway where kids hang out, prefering to park where there are plenty of people passing by that could witness something - or at night where it's well lit.
At home, you could put up cameras pointing at the vehicle - some dummy cameras are very convincing, this might deter someone that checks the areea first but wouldn't probably be even noticed by a momentary opportunist.
And in the same way some PIR lighting covering the car when it's parked up at night - these are extremely cheap nowadays from big DIY stores.
At the rear of my property we have had scum climb over the wall from the fields at the back but this is now booby-trapped with a couple of rambling roses that have vicious thorns (I hate pruning them). I also have a trip-wire connected to a firing device for a shot-gun cartridge (a blank cartridge, I hasten to add!).
After a break-in down the road the police did their routine rounds asking what security we had and were very impressed by the low-tech tripwire and cartridge. The only thing is , sometimes I've forgotton about it and set it off myself :ohmy: which always requires a change of underwear. :laugh:
Perimeter alarm-mine link
EDIT:
Another thought - if the rear door was defeated they may have been hoping the damage/break in would go unnoticed for a short while.
A simple door-alarm can be made from a personal attack alarm fixed to the door. The pin (which is pulled out to activate the alarm) attatched by way of a short cord to a hook on the floor or anywhere convenient. The cord needs to be long enough that you can just open the door to get to it and unhook it when you need to access the vehicle, but for anyone not realising it is there, they will set it off.
I have similar devices set up on outhouse doors.
Also a simple blinking led on the dash might deter someone even if there is no alarm. Like THIS one
IF IT AINT BROKE, KEEP FIXING IT UNTIL IT IS
Last edit: 17 Jan 2020 09:32 by Max Headroom.
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