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To undercoat or not undercoat the GEN4
17 Dec 2019 19:35 - 17 Dec 2019 19:36 #216528
by facade
As long as it is going over clean treated surfaces it is as good as anything. If it is going over rust it forms a nice cosmetic skin, but on a new car it will thicken up the factory sealer. I've sprayed many an old car with tetroseal, and they still rust away beneath it, whether they rust faster or slower than without it is anyone's guess.
The dinitrol black wax is supposed to be self healing, inhibit rust, water resistant, and generally better- but they would say that as it is twice the price.
I dinitrol'd my Gen 4, with a kit, I was a bit disappointed that the stonechip to do under the wheelarches seems to have been replaced by underbody wax- maybe it is better, or more likely cheaper.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic To undercoat or not undercoat the GEN4
Grima wrote: HI,Tetrosyl Schutz Underseal is it any good?
As long as it is going over clean treated surfaces it is as good as anything. If it is going over rust it forms a nice cosmetic skin, but on a new car it will thicken up the factory sealer. I've sprayed many an old car with tetroseal, and they still rust away beneath it, whether they rust faster or slower than without it is anyone's guess.
The dinitrol black wax is supposed to be self healing, inhibit rust, water resistant, and generally better- but they would say that as it is twice the price.

I dinitrol'd my Gen 4, with a kit, I was a bit disappointed that the stonechip to do under the wheelarches seems to have been replaced by underbody wax- maybe it is better, or more likely cheaper.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there

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17 Dec 2019 19:57 #216529
by Grima
Replied by Grima on topic To undercoat or not undercoat the GEN4
Sorry I'm thick, does that mean you can't underseal the wheel arches because there waxed?
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17 Dec 2019 20:38 #216531
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic To undercoat or not undercoat the GEN4
No, I mean the kit I bought from Dinitrol this year only had cavity wax and black underbody wax. The kit I bought 8 years ago to do the Gen 3 came with cavity wax, underbody wax and stonechip for the wheelarches.
The wheelarches on the Gen 4 are factory finished with paint over some sort of sealer or stonechip, you can spray what you like onto them.
The wheelarches on the Gen 4 are factory finished with paint over some sort of sealer or stonechip, you can spray what you like onto them.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there

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17 Dec 2019 21:40 #216532
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Replied by Grima on topic To undercoat or not undercoat the GEN4
Panic over. OK here's the deal, the garage said as it's a new car (4 weeks old) a simple job of clean dry spray. Tetrosyl Schutz Underseal, clear or black (black lasts longer?) cost £120 including vat, a 2 day job. your thoughts.
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18 Dec 2019 05:23 #216535
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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If you can get real hammerite waxoyle it will last longer than the tetraseal stuff, it goes on better too. Obviously because of keeping environmentally anxious types under control none of these products actually work like they used to but for the budget conscious the hammerite isn't bad just expect high wear areas to only last a year between top ups.
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
Bellerophon (2024 grello van daily
ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!
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18 Dec 2019 08:47 #216539
by kirkynut
The underdog often starts the fight, and occasionally the upper dog deserves to win - Edgar Watson Howe.
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In response to those who say don't bother as you'll not see the rewards, please do as in about 10-15 years I might be its custodian and I'd quite like it not to be rusty.
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