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Jimny following camber of the road
21 Nov 2018 11:17 - 21 Nov 2018 11:20 #197904
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Re:Jimny following camber of the road
Suzuki don't specify any preload for the swivel bearings (kingpins), on a Landrover you shim them until it takes a specified force to start the hub turning.
However, in a desperate attempt to fix the wobble, Suzuki did put out a service bulletin to suggest banging shims on top of the upper bearing to increase the preload from "probably all-right, we machined it in when we made it" to a known figure
Notice the big dust seal has to be off.
I'd just pop the track rod end out of the arm and compare how much effort it takes to start the hub turning each side. If it is way to high, the car will wander as the steering can't centre itself as you go along.
However, in a desperate attempt to fix the wobble, Suzuki did put out a service bulletin to suggest banging shims on top of the upper bearing to increase the preload from "probably all-right, we machined it in when we made it" to a known figure
Notice the big dust seal has to be off.
I'd just pop the track rod end out of the arm and compare how much effort it takes to start the hub turning each side. If it is way to high, the car will wander as the steering can't centre itself as you go along.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there

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21 Nov 2018 12:06 #197907
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Replied by paradox1001 on topic Re:Jimny following camber of the road
I’ll pop the track rod end out and have a feel of each side then.
I’m wondering if one side was fitted with a bearing kit that came with shims and the other side fitted with a bearing kit without shims would this cause my problem ?
How do you mean the dust seal has to be off?
I’m wondering if one side was fitted with a bearing kit that came with shims and the other side fitted with a bearing kit without shims would this cause my problem ?
How do you mean the dust seal has to be off?
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21 Nov 2018 12:21 #197910
by sniper
Replied by sniper on topic Jimny following camber of the road
Just a thought...... sticky calliper ???
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21 Nov 2018 13:11 - 21 Nov 2018 13:12 #197915
by paradox1001
Replied by paradox1001 on topic Jimny following camber of the road
I don’t suspect a sticky calliper because that would pull it to one side constantly and it only appears to do it on the flat and I’m not getting a burning smell or excessive heat from either side.
When I changed the discs and pads the pistons retracted fine.
The sliders were sticky though and some of the slider boots were cracked.
I cleaned the sliders up and used red rubber grease on them
There’s no pulling to the left or right under braking.
I have new sliders,boots and bolts along with new pad clips here to go on
So when I com to fit those I’ll investigate that.
I’ve also new front dampers to put on
There nothing wrong with the current dampers as far as I can tell
The rears were tired and leaking so I bought a full set but only found time to fit the rears.
What I could do with is finding another jimny owner local to me and get them to have a drive of mine and maybe me have a drive of theirs so I can see if mines just the way they are or if there is a difference with mine.
When I changed the discs and pads the pistons retracted fine.
The sliders were sticky though and some of the slider boots were cracked.
I cleaned the sliders up and used red rubber grease on them
There’s no pulling to the left or right under braking.
I have new sliders,boots and bolts along with new pad clips here to go on
So when I com to fit those I’ll investigate that.
I’ve also new front dampers to put on
There nothing wrong with the current dampers as far as I can tell
The rears were tired and leaking so I bought a full set but only found time to fit the rears.
What I could do with is finding another jimny owner local to me and get them to have a drive of mine and maybe me have a drive of theirs so I can see if mines just the way they are or if there is a difference with mine.
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21 Nov 2018 14:08 #197918
by facade
The big seal around the ball housing has to be taken off and left dangling for an accurate measurement (as in the picture), as it is the friction component that damps out the death wobble (or doesn't).
Just for comparing each side I wouldn't bother. If you can move it by blowing on it, I'd look at shimming it, if you need your feet on the chassis and arching your back to shift it I would look at measuring and fiddling with shims.
Probably when you seal was replaced because it had turned over, they simply undid the ring, pulled it back and refitted it.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Re:Jimny following camber of the road
paradox1001 wrote:
How do you mean the dust seal has to be off?
The big seal around the ball housing has to be taken off and left dangling for an accurate measurement (as in the picture), as it is the friction component that damps out the death wobble (or doesn't).
Just for comparing each side I wouldn't bother. If you can move it by blowing on it, I'd look at shimming it, if you need your feet on the chassis and arching your back to shift it I would look at measuring and fiddling with shims.
Probably when you seal was replaced because it had turned over, they simply undid the ring, pulled it back and refitted it.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there

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21 Nov 2018 14:18 #197919
by Lambert
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One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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Replied by Lambert on topic Re:Jimny following camber of the road
Paradox, where abouts in the country are you?
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!
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