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Alternator overcharging *SOLVED*
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19 May 2016 20:13 - 12 Jul 2016 18:32 #167039
by MattB12
Alternator overcharging *SOLVED* was created by MattB12
I've had a search of the forum but can't seem to find anything so here goes.
My alternator is outputting 18.5v. Measured across the battery terminals at idle and also measured from the alternator output and a ground.
I thought its regulator was duff so got hold of a new alternator and fitted it only to find it did exactly the same, it output around 16v and slowly increased to 18v again. I've replaced the battery with a new one too.
There is a plug on the back of the alternator with the terminals IG and L according to my manual. I believe IG turns the alternator regulator on with the ignition and L feeds the battery light in the dash. Now i've measured across these terminals - IG seems to output the same as the battery so around 15v and L outputs just over 13v. Does this sound right?
I've ordered another alternator just in case the replacement was at fault so just waiting for that to arrive.
Has anyone experienced this before? I have no idea what to try next if the 2nd replacement alt still does the same.
Thanks very much.
My alternator is outputting 18.5v. Measured across the battery terminals at idle and also measured from the alternator output and a ground.
I thought its regulator was duff so got hold of a new alternator and fitted it only to find it did exactly the same, it output around 16v and slowly increased to 18v again. I've replaced the battery with a new one too.
There is a plug on the back of the alternator with the terminals IG and L according to my manual. I believe IG turns the alternator regulator on with the ignition and L feeds the battery light in the dash. Now i've measured across these terminals - IG seems to output the same as the battery so around 15v and L outputs just over 13v. Does this sound right?
I've ordered another alternator just in case the replacement was at fault so just waiting for that to arrive.
Has anyone experienced this before? I have no idea what to try next if the 2nd replacement alt still does the same.
Thanks very much.
Last edit: 12 Jul 2016 18:32 by MattB12.
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19 May 2016 22:27 #167054
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Alternator overcharging.
These alternators are internally sensed, so it should output 14V or so (depends on temperature) between the big terminal and the case of the alternator.
I suppose it is possible somehow for a bad earth between alternator and battery to cause a problem, but I can't see it raising the battery voltage by 4V or more, unless the battery is dead, or not connected and the alternator is having trouble regulating open circuit - check the main fuse.
The L terminal rises to battery voltage when it is charging, and turns the dash light off, the IG terminal has to go to ignition live to run the alternator, I'm not sure why, as the good old British ones would start up from the tickle through the warning light, and then self excited, you'd have thought modern stuff was better.
Are you sure the voltage is really that high, and it isn't your voltmeter that has a flat battery or something, at 18V I'd expect the battery to start venting and stink like rotten eggs. What is the voltage between the battery terminals?
I suppose it is possible somehow for a bad earth between alternator and battery to cause a problem, but I can't see it raising the battery voltage by 4V or more, unless the battery is dead, or not connected and the alternator is having trouble regulating open circuit - check the main fuse.
The L terminal rises to battery voltage when it is charging, and turns the dash light off, the IG terminal has to go to ignition live to run the alternator, I'm not sure why, as the good old British ones would start up from the tickle through the warning light, and then self excited, you'd have thought modern stuff was better.

Are you sure the voltage is really that high, and it isn't your voltmeter that has a flat battery or something, at 18V I'd expect the battery to start venting and stink like rotten eggs. What is the voltage between the battery terminals?
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there

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21 May 2016 20:58 #167199
by Rhinoman
Yes and when the warning light blew the battery went flat without any warning; the modern alternators have better regulators.
Is the battery good?
Some Suzukis and a bunch of motorcycles.
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facade wrote: the good old British ones would start up from the tickle through the warning light, and then self excited, you'd have thought modern stuff was better.
Yes and when the warning light blew the battery went flat without any warning; the modern alternators have better regulators.
Is the battery good?
Some Suzukis and a bunch of motorcycles.
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12 Jul 2016 18:31 #169933
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Replied by MattB12 on topic Alternator overcharging *SOLVED*
Thank you Facade, it was my voltmeter. The battery was low, how embarrassing :blush: That was the one thing I didn't think to check!
All sorted.
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