Drums with holes in...unsafe?

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facade wrote:

emu88 wrote: This is what mine looks like and I think it's alright really, just surface rust:

That is the other end of the car

If the casing is fine around the mountings, then just source a pair of halfshafts like the ones in the link, but for abs, then get a pair of wheel cylinders, and see what a garage will charge to change them over. Your old ones may be fine, but for the price get new ones, as the car will be stuck if the old ones are no use.

It is easy enough to do yourself, and tbh, if you are not handy with spanners, running old 4wds of any sort is a money pit, more so if you actually use them off road.

Oh damn haha good start, wrong end of the car I worked on my beetle myself a lot so I have tools and basic skills, the space is a little hard though. I don't offroad and in any case, it can't be as much of a money pit as 40 year old vws!

Right, so I'll try and find a pair of abs halfshafts with the backing plates and bearings fitted. Then I'll buy 2 wheel cylinders and an ABS sensor (yes?) and maybe 2 sets of shoes, springs etc. This way I can do it myself by just removing the shafts complete with bearings and the backing plates and reinstall the new ones, right? I wouldn't need new rear brake pipes though surely, just reuse and bleed?

Seems like such an annoyance just because of the rusted backing plates. What if I just kurust the lot and patch over the two holes!?


EDIT: what about these, they have the backing plates, bearings and 'ABS ring' whatever that is. £140 for both... good deal or not? The short one's backing plate is somewhat mangled though.

Hmm on second thoughts, after looking at the the pics, I think I have got my bearings now (pardon the pun) and realise that the holes, as you said, are just in the backing plates and the bit I can see through them is the drum itself which is nice and smooth/solid.





So to save myself the cost and aggro of halfshafts and whatnot, it seems quite reasonable to me to wire brush and then use rust converter on the backing plates and then patch up the couple of holes in them since they are just the first line of defence. I could then remove the wheels and the drum hubs just to have a look inside and check/clean up any mud or gunk and be done..? What do you think?

If the braking components and their anchorages are not affected by the rust, then yes that would be a solution.

It isn't possible to tell from the pictures, you will have to inspect inside the drums, so I'm not going to advise that you bodge it up.

You won't need an abs sensor anyway, as it is not disturbed by halfshaft removal.

The arrow points to a brake shoe, the drum is the bit on the outside, between the wheel and the hub. and it will be part of the outer rim of the drum that you can see.

facade wrote: If the braking components and their anchorages are not affected by the rust, then yes that would be a solution.

It isn't possible to tell from the pictures, you will have to inspect inside the drums, so I'm not going to advise that you bodge it up.

You won't need an abs sensor anyway, as it is not disturbed by halfshaft removal.

The arrow points to a brake shoe, the drum is the bit on the outside, between the wheel and the hub. and it will be part of the outer rim of the drum that you can see.

Alrighty Thanks a lot for your help. I'll have a look in the hubs and decide accordingly.