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Changing front brake discs
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06 Jul 2010 00:31 #3727
by ooky_123
Former owner of Little "Ooky", who has now started a new life in Shetland
Changing front brake discs was created by ooky_123
Since swapping the Mud Tyres for road ones, and fitting the spacer kit, we have noticed that on some surfaces, and when braking, the little Suzuki wants to shoot across the road, or the steering shakes violently.
Now we know the wheels are balanced, but, having just done 64,000 miles, a question regarding the condition of the front discs has been raised.
The symptoms would suggest it's not the dreaded "Death wobble", but warped / worn discs.
Has anyone changed their discs?
Any reccomendatipns ? Any tips?
Was it a quick job or is it going to be major surgery ?
Will gut new pads too just for completeness.
Now we know the wheels are balanced, but, having just done 64,000 miles, a question regarding the condition of the front discs has been raised.
The symptoms would suggest it's not the dreaded "Death wobble", but warped / worn discs.
Has anyone changed their discs?
Any reccomendatipns ? Any tips?
Was it a quick job or is it going to be major surgery ?
Will gut new pads too just for completeness.
Former owner of Little "Ooky", who has now started a new life in Shetland
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06 Jul 2010 20:43 #3736
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Re:Changing front brake discs
Easy peasy job.
I got a pair of Apec discs off eBay for £25 from a clearance sale.
Remove the calliper slide bolts and remove calliper, hook/tie to chassis to avoid straining pipe.
Check that the two bushes slide back and forwards, grease with red rubber grease. They are a rattly fit in the calliper, but a tight sliding fit through the rubbers. If they are seized, free them up, or you won't get new pads in, and the brakes will pull.
Undo two very tight bolts holding calliper frame to back of hub, and remove frame.
Use slide bolts to screw in threaded holes in front of disc, tighten evenly and disc will pop off.
Clean preservative off new disc with thinners or something.
Drop new disc on, replace frame, suck brake fluid from master cylinder, push piston back with G clamp, replace pads, replace calliper and wheel.
Top up brake fluid, pump pedal until solid, top up fluid to mark.
Job done
I got a pair of Apec discs off eBay for £25 from a clearance sale.
Remove the calliper slide bolts and remove calliper, hook/tie to chassis to avoid straining pipe.
Check that the two bushes slide back and forwards, grease with red rubber grease. They are a rattly fit in the calliper, but a tight sliding fit through the rubbers. If they are seized, free them up, or you won't get new pads in, and the brakes will pull.
Undo two very tight bolts holding calliper frame to back of hub, and remove frame.
Use slide bolts to screw in threaded holes in front of disc, tighten evenly and disc will pop off.
Clean preservative off new disc with thinners or something.
Drop new disc on, replace frame, suck brake fluid from master cylinder, push piston back with G clamp, replace pads, replace calliper and wheel.
Top up brake fluid, pump pedal until solid, top up fluid to mark.
Job done
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there

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07 Jul 2010 12:13 #3740
by kirkynut
The underdog often starts the fight, and occasionally the upper dog deserves to win - Edgar Watson Howe.
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Replied by kirkynut on topic Re:Changing front brake discs
It really is easy as has already been said. Copper grease will be OK for the sliders if you don;t have red rubber grease. Use a little thread lock on all the bolts that you undo when you do them back up, such as the carrier bolts etc
Make sure you clean up the surface where the disc is going to sit with a wire brush and emery to make sure it sits on the hub square and put some copper grease on there to make the disc's removal in the future easier.
If you can't get the disc off with bolts through the threaded holes on it, give the blighter a good clout from behind with a hammer and keep tuening the disc as you do so and the shock might release the rust a bit.
Just a little note though, I get a little bit of steering wheel shake when I brake from speed, nothing major, but I know my discs are ok. There are lots of other factors on a Jimny, such as the condition of wheel and kingpin bearings and also perhaps the tread on our MT's squashing and squirming a bit as the weight comes down on them.
Warped discs usually give a horrible violent shake through the wheel and liek a pulsing feeling through the pedal. If they are warped though, this shaking can't do bearings any good, so if in doubt and you've got the bits, you may as well change them.
You must always use new pads with new discs.
Kirkynut
Make sure you clean up the surface where the disc is going to sit with a wire brush and emery to make sure it sits on the hub square and put some copper grease on there to make the disc's removal in the future easier.
If you can't get the disc off with bolts through the threaded holes on it, give the blighter a good clout from behind with a hammer and keep tuening the disc as you do so and the shock might release the rust a bit.
Just a little note though, I get a little bit of steering wheel shake when I brake from speed, nothing major, but I know my discs are ok. There are lots of other factors on a Jimny, such as the condition of wheel and kingpin bearings and also perhaps the tread on our MT's squashing and squirming a bit as the weight comes down on them.
Warped discs usually give a horrible violent shake through the wheel and liek a pulsing feeling through the pedal. If they are warped though, this shaking can't do bearings any good, so if in doubt and you've got the bits, you may as well change them.
You must always use new pads with new discs.
Kirkynut
The underdog often starts the fight, and occasionally the upper dog deserves to win - Edgar Watson Howe.
My Jimny Thread Here: www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum/8-my-ji...on-continues?start=0
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07 Jul 2010 12:33 #3744
by ooky_123
Former owner of Little "Ooky", who has now started a new life in Shetland
Replied by ooky_123 on topic Re:Changing front brake discs
Cheers for the replies, im doing the easy stuff before I start to consider its the Kingpin's 
Since fitting the extended brake hoses, the braking has been vague .. Ive bled the system and had air out of it, but I think the pads also could do with replacing, so I rekon, just do the whole lot.
As long as its a "Sunday Morning's" work, ill do it myself

Since fitting the extended brake hoses, the braking has been vague .. Ive bled the system and had air out of it, but I think the pads also could do with replacing, so I rekon, just do the whole lot.
As long as its a "Sunday Morning's" work, ill do it myself
Former owner of Little "Ooky", who has now started a new life in Shetland
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07 Jul 2010 14:42 - 10 May 2015 15:44 #3748
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:Changing front brake discs
Don't use Copper Grease or any Oil based grease. Only use Vegetable (Red Rubber Grease) or a Silicone based product...why? Take a look here.....
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/home/entry/18...sive-mistake-v15-247
Followed by a look here...
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/home/entry/18...sive-mistake-v15-248
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/home/entry/18...sive-mistake-v15-247
Followed by a look here...
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/home/entry/18...sive-mistake-v15-248
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Last edit: 10 May 2015 15:44 by mlines.
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07 Jul 2010 18:10 #3753
by kirkynut
The underdog often starts the fight, and occasionally the upper dog deserves to win - Edgar Watson Howe.
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Replied by kirkynut on topic Re:Changing front brake discs
Ah! Ignore the copper grease comment I made then! I've used it before but obviously the rubber was different.
It's a good job you pointed that out Martin as I've got my rear disc conversion to do soon and guess what I would have done!
Kirkynut
It's a good job you pointed that out Martin as I've got my rear disc conversion to do soon and guess what I would have done!
Kirkynut
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