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Rear lockers on gen 4 ?

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27 Jul 2019 07:08 #211519 by Lambert
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This is why I want one, in combination with my other track modifications it will make Dreadnaught a real weapon of mass humiliation on most twisty circuits.

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27 Jul 2019 08:45 #211520 by sniper
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From what I saw in the Lakes with a new one, it would be near perfect with the ATB..... said so at the time, the ABS thingy is very good.
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27 Jul 2019 09:25 #211521 by Andy2640
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So are we saying that this atb diff would be ideal for the gen 4?

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27 Jul 2019 09:53 - 27 Jul 2019 09:55 #211523 by Andy2640
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sniper wrote: The Quaife ATB works in unison with electronic ABS systems.......

On paper (never seen it personally) the torque biasing of the ATB will move drive from the slipping wheel to the gripping wheel and the ABS will lock a slipping wheel, giving grip to any wheel with grip. It should work pretty seamlessly.

Have a look at reviews of the Quaife ATB when fitted to cars with an ABS controlled traction system.

I run the Quaife unit in a gen3 and it gives so much more than just an aid off road..... it completely alters the drive of the car and gives you "Lift off oversteer" as a chassis characteristic. Making the car much more fun to drive quickly and improving handling beyond expectations.....

It has been a massive improvement in general terms..... just apply a little throttle as you enter a corner and so long as power is fed in, you're line stays tight.

My jimny can out drive most cars on tight and twisty B roads, they shoot right past me on the straights but I crawl all over them in the twisty bits... and you wouldn't think a Jimny would do it..... watching the faces of RangeRover drivers as my 3k banger goes past is never going to stop being funny...

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Im just trying to digest what this means.

So what is the difference if the atb quaiff sends power and torque to the wheel with traction, and limits torque to the spinning "non traction" wheel. Isnt this what the stock jims BLSD does anyway?

Sorry, im just trying to get this firm in my noggin.
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27 Jul 2019 10:10 - 27 Jul 2019 10:28 #211525 by AlexK
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In theory, the BLSD should need to provide less intervention. To the BLSD, the mechanical locker just makes it look like the wheels have more traction.

Edited to add: Remember, Suzuki offers a geared locker so this combo is supported. In the accessory brochure, it says this:

"On slippery road surfaces, the loss of driving due to tire slippage is reduced, and the driving power is efficiently transmitted to support stable driving in straight lines and corners. When the brake LSD is activated, the driving force to the grounded tire is increased to support the escape performance. In addition, on curves of pavements, etc., differential differential gears maintain their original smooth running."

Yours for 111,510 yen (31,590 of which is installation) - roughly £830.

Personally, if I was cracking open the diffs to add lockers I'd be looking to re-gear at the same time, but none of the companies I'm familiar with offer R&P sets that'll fit a Jimny.
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27 Jul 2019 10:51 - 27 Jul 2019 10:54 #211526 by Andy2640
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Just an edit, and dropping in a Simple explanation of different diffs, especially for any Noobs lurking in the background, I amongst them :woohoo:

The jimny's BLSD system is described at 3.48 mins.






I'm going to read your reply above now Alex. Thank you
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