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pre-buying help for a newbie please
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26 Jul 2013 09:50 #78241
by Pickle
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Hello all!
As a ‘yet to take the plunge’ newbie to the Jimny world I was wondering if you could clear up an element of confusion I have?
I am looking to purchase a Jimny to tow my other half’s jet-ski which she bought and realised we didn’t have anything to tow and launch it with (“I thought your car had a tow bar… :huh:”). She and I are now quite keen on getting a Jimny and it’ll only be used as a tow vehicle and as an occasional winter hack. Well that’s the plan for now anyway!
My question, I am sure you can guess it already, is surrounding towing with the Jimny.
The jet-ski weighs the best part of 350kg’s and the trailer, which is unbraked, is around the 140kg mark. Add 30kg of fuel that might be on board and we are looking at the best part of 520kg. I have done some research which states that the Jimny is more than capable of towing much heavier loads than this but I have also found information that states that the maximum unbraked towing capacity is 350kg. I also note that in one of the topics on this forum users remark that they tow small caravans and a member stated that the those weights are the maximum recommended by Suzuki. I’ve also read that if the trailer has no brakes it can weigh up to a maximum of 750kg gross trailer weight or half the towing vehicle's kerb weight (so 710kg in a Jimny’s case according to Autotrader weights) - whichever is less. I’ve also seen a copy of someone’s V5 (online) which states 350kg unbraked (not sure of relevance). So I am now right royally confused and here comes the question… If I buy one and am merrily towing the jet-ski along a public road and get pulled over and escorted to a weigh-bridge, do I fall foul of the law (or void my insurance should the worst happen) for towing a 520kg unbraked trailer with a Jimny?
Thanks in advance for any help
As a ‘yet to take the plunge’ newbie to the Jimny world I was wondering if you could clear up an element of confusion I have?
I am looking to purchase a Jimny to tow my other half’s jet-ski which she bought and realised we didn’t have anything to tow and launch it with (“I thought your car had a tow bar… :huh:”). She and I are now quite keen on getting a Jimny and it’ll only be used as a tow vehicle and as an occasional winter hack. Well that’s the plan for now anyway!
My question, I am sure you can guess it already, is surrounding towing with the Jimny.
The jet-ski weighs the best part of 350kg’s and the trailer, which is unbraked, is around the 140kg mark. Add 30kg of fuel that might be on board and we are looking at the best part of 520kg. I have done some research which states that the Jimny is more than capable of towing much heavier loads than this but I have also found information that states that the maximum unbraked towing capacity is 350kg. I also note that in one of the topics on this forum users remark that they tow small caravans and a member stated that the those weights are the maximum recommended by Suzuki. I’ve also read that if the trailer has no brakes it can weigh up to a maximum of 750kg gross trailer weight or half the towing vehicle's kerb weight (so 710kg in a Jimny’s case according to Autotrader weights) - whichever is less. I’ve also seen a copy of someone’s V5 (online) which states 350kg unbraked (not sure of relevance). So I am now right royally confused and here comes the question… If I buy one and am merrily towing the jet-ski along a public road and get pulled over and escorted to a weigh-bridge, do I fall foul of the law (or void my insurance should the worst happen) for towing a 520kg unbraked trailer with a Jimny?
Thanks in advance for any help
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26 Jul 2013 19:47 #78276
by jimkyx
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Hand book say 350Kg un-braked
1300Kb braked
So its get a Jimny and change your trailer to a braked one or find another tow truck.
1300Kb braked
So its get a Jimny and change your trailer to a braked one or find another tow truck.
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27 Jul 2013 19:47 #78361
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29 Jul 2013 08:08 #78513
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Thanks both for your replies.
Just to clarify, the 350kg un-braked handbook stated weight, is that then also the legal limit for the Jimny too?
thanks,
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Just to clarify, the 350kg un-braked handbook stated weight, is that then also the legal limit for the Jimny too?
thanks,
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29 Jul 2013 10:20 #78524
by jimkyx
Replied by jimkyx on topic pre-buying help for a newbie please
I know where your coming from! A compact Jimny towing a jet-ski would really compliment each other and look the biz.
I don't think the legal issue is anything to do with it. It is about the weight of the tow truck, the wheel base and axle width and finally and most important the brake effectiveness and setup.
I was talking to a guy with a pre ABS Jimny and trailer and he said he had to watch out for the back end of the Jimny stepping out under braking in the wet. His answer was to shove it into four wheel drive when towing in the wet !!!!!!
For what its worth I would keep my Jimny and get braked hubs fitted to the trailer all painted in matching colours of course.
I don't think the legal issue is anything to do with it. It is about the weight of the tow truck, the wheel base and axle width and finally and most important the brake effectiveness and setup.
I was talking to a guy with a pre ABS Jimny and trailer and he said he had to watch out for the back end of the Jimny stepping out under braking in the wet. His answer was to shove it into four wheel drive when towing in the wet !!!!!!
For what its worth I would keep my Jimny and get braked hubs fitted to the trailer all painted in matching colours of course.
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29 Jul 2013 10:21 #78525
by steffan
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Yes if the vehicle is booked at 350kg unbracked then that is all it can legally tow evan tho it will propbely pull much more I would say get a bracked trailer then there is no issues with the old bill
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