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Whats your Tyre and wheel combined weight?
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01 Aug 2012 21:33 #45326
by pgatensuk
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Whats your Tyre and wheel combined weight? was created by pgatensuk
After a week and a bit of driving my new (to me) 55 plate Jimny soft top and having attended the recent Herts/Bucks meet last night and seen some impressive Jimny's. i thought it was time to dive in the garage and dig out a set of wheels and tyres that have been sitting in they for about a year.
I have swapped wheels and tyres from the standard Bridgestone Duellers (205 x 70 x 15) with the later style 5 spoke alloys (as fitted to the VTT models) to a set of Goodyear Wrangers (215 x 75 x 15) AT tread fit to 15 x 7" Wofrace alloys.
For some unknown reason I seem to have a set of bathroom scales in the garage so thought it might be an idea to weigh the wheel/tyre combos and see what the difference is.
Standard Jimny alloys with Bridgestones weigh in at 18Kg
Goodyear wrangers with 7" Wolfrace alloys weigh in at 25Kg
I dropped the pressures down to 22 front and 24 rear on the wranglers and I have to say the ride is pretty good, maybe better than the Duellers.
With my first tank of fuel through the jimny I recorded nearly 35mpg with the standard wheel/tyres. Not bad as I have been giving it a bit of stick this week. Will be interesting to see how much differences the 215 Wranglers make.
After the success of the how high is your Jimny thread I thought we could try a whats the weight of your wheel tyre combo? Can we have a prize for the lightest and heavist? Perhaps a BigJimy sticker?
I would be interested to know what a good 195 80 15 AT combo comes in at.
Cheers all.
Paul
Hertford
I have swapped wheels and tyres from the standard Bridgestone Duellers (205 x 70 x 15) with the later style 5 spoke alloys (as fitted to the VTT models) to a set of Goodyear Wrangers (215 x 75 x 15) AT tread fit to 15 x 7" Wofrace alloys.
For some unknown reason I seem to have a set of bathroom scales in the garage so thought it might be an idea to weigh the wheel/tyre combos and see what the difference is.
Standard Jimny alloys with Bridgestones weigh in at 18Kg
Goodyear wrangers with 7" Wolfrace alloys weigh in at 25Kg
I dropped the pressures down to 22 front and 24 rear on the wranglers and I have to say the ride is pretty good, maybe better than the Duellers.
With my first tank of fuel through the jimny I recorded nearly 35mpg with the standard wheel/tyres. Not bad as I have been giving it a bit of stick this week. Will be interesting to see how much differences the 215 Wranglers make.
After the success of the how high is your Jimny thread I thought we could try a whats the weight of your wheel tyre combo? Can we have a prize for the lightest and heavist? Perhaps a BigJimy sticker?
I would be interested to know what a good 195 80 15 AT combo comes in at.
Cheers all.
Paul
Hertford
2005 Jimny VVT soft top
2002 Jimny Soft top - Sold
2007 Triumph Tiger 1050 - Sold
2011 Kawasaki W800
2002 Twin boys
2001 Kerry Blue Terrier - RIP
2012 GoldenDoodle
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05 Aug 2012 09:45 - 05 Aug 2012 09:48 #45499
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Replied by Jimnyash on topic Re: Whats your Tyre and wheel combined weight?
A couple more:
Standard Jimny Steel with part worn Dueller (205/70 x 15) - 17.5kg
Standard Jimny Steel with part worn Grabber (215/75 x 15) - 22.5kg
Standard Jimny Steel with part worn Dueller (205/70 x 15) - 17.5kg
Standard Jimny Steel with part worn Grabber (215/75 x 15) - 22.5kg
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06 Aug 2012 10:49 - 06 Aug 2012 10:52 #45557
by pgatensuk
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Replied by pgatensuk on topic Re: Whats your Tyre and wheel combined weight?
Thanks Jimnyash for your input.
Driven the Jimny to Wales on Friday for a long weekend and a few green lanes. The 215 75 on 7" rims cause sporadic Jimny "death wooble". Most of the time it is fine and then I can the wobbles under braking or when accelerating at 45mph.
A couple of photos from Jimny in Wales with the 215 75 15 Goodyear Wranglers on 7" rims
Have order a jimnybits steering damper kit to fit next when i am back home. Hopefully that will resolve the wobbles.
MPG was pretty good on last tank (with 25kg wheel tyre combo) on the mixed driving of motorway and B roads got 35MPG (taking in the 5.3% difference in tyre diameter).
My conclusion (from my limited tests 2 tanks fulls). The extra weight (18kg to 25kg)does not seem to make a big difference to MPG, but sure enough does contribute to the "death wobble" problem.
I'll continue to monitor the situation and feedback what effect the steering damper makes.
Cheers
Paul (still in Wales)
Driven the Jimny to Wales on Friday for a long weekend and a few green lanes. The 215 75 on 7" rims cause sporadic Jimny "death wooble". Most of the time it is fine and then I can the wobbles under braking or when accelerating at 45mph.
A couple of photos from Jimny in Wales with the 215 75 15 Goodyear Wranglers on 7" rims
Have order a jimnybits steering damper kit to fit next when i am back home. Hopefully that will resolve the wobbles.
MPG was pretty good on last tank (with 25kg wheel tyre combo) on the mixed driving of motorway and B roads got 35MPG (taking in the 5.3% difference in tyre diameter).
My conclusion (from my limited tests 2 tanks fulls). The extra weight (18kg to 25kg)does not seem to make a big difference to MPG, but sure enough does contribute to the "death wobble" problem.
I'll continue to monitor the situation and feedback what effect the steering damper makes.
Cheers
Paul (still in Wales)
2005 Jimny VVT soft top
2002 Jimny Soft top - Sold
2007 Triumph Tiger 1050 - Sold
2011 Kawasaki W800
2002 Twin boys
2001 Kerry Blue Terrier - RIP
2012 GoldenDoodle
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06 Aug 2012 12:17 #45559
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Hi pgatensuk
Did you have the deathwobble at all with your original wheel/tyres? If not then your new ones must be out of balance?
Cheers,
John,.
Did you have the deathwobble at all with your original wheel/tyres? If not then your new ones must be out of balance?
Cheers,
John,.
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06 Aug 2012 15:42 #45569
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2011 Kawasaki W800
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Replied by pgatensuk on topic Re: Whats your Tyre and wheel combined weight?
Hi John,
No deathwobble with standard wheels tyres. The new wheels and tyres have been balanced and don't do it all the time which is the odd thing.
Seem more prone to the 45mph wobble in the morning on first drive. Wobble from braking can happen anytime.
Perhaps I should get them balanced on the car?
It was a similar experience on my older 2002 softtop, except that deathwoggle was very minor with the bigger wheel/tyre combo. On the old car I had standard steel wheels with Duellers and these Goodyear Wranglers on 7" rims.
Cheers
Paul
Hertford
No deathwobble with standard wheels tyres. The new wheels and tyres have been balanced and don't do it all the time which is the odd thing.
Seem more prone to the 45mph wobble in the morning on first drive. Wobble from braking can happen anytime.
Perhaps I should get them balanced on the car?
It was a similar experience on my older 2002 softtop, except that deathwoggle was very minor with the bigger wheel/tyre combo. On the old car I had standard steel wheels with Duellers and these Goodyear Wranglers on 7" rims.
Cheers
Paul
Hertford
2005 Jimny VVT soft top
2002 Jimny Soft top - Sold
2007 Triumph Tiger 1050 - Sold
2011 Kawasaki W800
2002 Twin boys
2001 Kerry Blue Terrier - RIP
2012 GoldenDoodle
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06 Aug 2012 16:02 #45571
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Deathwoggle? Is that like a particulalry nasty Boy Scout or something? :laugh:
Sorry couldn't help myself :blush:
Replied by goatboy on topic Re: Whats your Tyre and wheel combined weight?
pgatensuk wrote: Hi John,
It was a similar experience on my older 2002 softtop, except that deathwoggle was very minor with the bigger wheel/tyre combo.
Deathwoggle? Is that like a particulalry nasty Boy Scout or something? :laugh:
Sorry couldn't help myself :blush:
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