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air bags and body lift.
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07 Aug 2011 09:35 #20010
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air bags and body lift. was created by zammit
is anyone doing this? i have heard that it is illeagal due to the body lift not triggering the front crush cans, but they are connected to the chassis so i dont see why it would matter?
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07 Aug 2011 09:58 #20011
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Replied by Az1987 on topic Re: air bags and body lift.
Air bags are classed as a secondary restraint systems and are not covered by any law saying they do or do not have to work after first registration the only thing it might affect is your insurance depending on who you are with.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
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07 Aug 2011 21:57 #20043
by zammit
Replied by zammit on topic Re: air bags and body lift.
Yes that helps alot, I was unaware of that. I wonder if the same rules apply in Australia vic
Thanks heaps for the reply mate! Means heaps
Thanks heaps for the reply mate! Means heaps
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08 Aug 2011 05:41 #20047
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Replied by srcars on topic Re: air bags and body lift.
I have been forwarded that the mot regs are changing, not sure how true this is but i was sent this on another website 
There are to be some changes to the MOT test from 1st January 2012 which are being introduced in response to European Commission Directive 2010/48/EU of the 5th July 2010 and which will effect those with aftermarket HID headlights and remapped ECUs:
4.1.4 Compliance with requirements:
(a) Lamp, emitted colour, position or intensity not in accordance with the requirements
(b) Products on lens or light source which obviously reduce light intensity or change emitted colour
(c) Light source and lamp not compatible
4.1.5. Levelling devices (where mandatory):
(a) Device not operating.
(b) Manual device cannot be operated from driver’s seat.
4.1.6 Headlamp cleaning device (where mandatory):
Device not operating.
For anyone with a remap, section 6.1.9 may be relevant.
6.1.9 Engine performance:
(a) Control unit illegal modified.
(b) Illegal engine modification.
(by 'illegal', it is assumed that they mean changed/programmed differently from OEM specifications)
There will also be a new check on the general condition of the wiring:
4.11. Electrical wiring
(a) Wiring insecure or not adequately secured.
(b) Wiring deteriorated.
(c) Damaged or deteriorated insulation
and on the function of airbag and seat belt pre-tensioner systems:
7.1.4. Safety belt Pre-tensioners:
Pre-tensioner obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
7.1.5. Airbag:
(a) Airbags obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
(b) Airbag obviously non-operative.
7.1.6. SRS Systems:
SRS MIL indicates any kind of failure of the system.

There are to be some changes to the MOT test from 1st January 2012 which are being introduced in response to European Commission Directive 2010/48/EU of the 5th July 2010 and which will effect those with aftermarket HID headlights and remapped ECUs:
4.1.4 Compliance with requirements:
(a) Lamp, emitted colour, position or intensity not in accordance with the requirements
(b) Products on lens or light source which obviously reduce light intensity or change emitted colour
(c) Light source and lamp not compatible
4.1.5. Levelling devices (where mandatory):
(a) Device not operating.
(b) Manual device cannot be operated from driver’s seat.
4.1.6 Headlamp cleaning device (where mandatory):
Device not operating.
For anyone with a remap, section 6.1.9 may be relevant.
6.1.9 Engine performance:
(a) Control unit illegal modified.
(b) Illegal engine modification.
(by 'illegal', it is assumed that they mean changed/programmed differently from OEM specifications)
There will also be a new check on the general condition of the wiring:
4.11. Electrical wiring
(a) Wiring insecure or not adequately secured.
(b) Wiring deteriorated.
(c) Damaged or deteriorated insulation
and on the function of airbag and seat belt pre-tensioner systems:
7.1.4. Safety belt Pre-tensioners:
Pre-tensioner obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
7.1.5. Airbag:
(a) Airbags obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
(b) Airbag obviously non-operative.
7.1.6. SRS Systems:
SRS MIL indicates any kind of failure of the system.
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08 Aug 2011 12:35 #20060
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Replied by X-Eng Simon on topic Re: air bags and body lift.
I may be wrong, but most airbags are triggered by an accelerometer, not by the crush-cans being crushed. The reason for this is they will operate in response to oblique impacts which may not affect the cans at all - such as a corner impact where your wing & tyre hit something else.
Although mine may have been 'modified' by a previous owner - I can see no evidence of a sensor in the bumper, crush cans or front chassis legs.
On a side note, it's amazing what you find when you start stripping a vehicle. I've found evidence of two collisions which have been aesthetically but not structurally repaired - both hidden inside the trim / rear bumper plastic. The squashed metal was not even re-painted so it's now fairly rusty. It's all coming off - so I don't care particularly!
Si
Although mine may have been 'modified' by a previous owner - I can see no evidence of a sensor in the bumper, crush cans or front chassis legs.
On a side note, it's amazing what you find when you start stripping a vehicle. I've found evidence of two collisions which have been aesthetically but not structurally repaired - both hidden inside the trim / rear bumper plastic. The squashed metal was not even re-painted so it's now fairly rusty. It's all coming off - so I don't care particularly!
Si
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08 Aug 2011 16:29 #20072
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Re: air bags and body lift.
What are crush cans?
Are we talking about the weak part of the chassis forward of the bulkhead?
Are we talking about the weak part of the chassis forward of the bulkhead?
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there

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