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Another green laner build
03 Nov 2021 22:01 - 03 Nov 2021 22:02 #239849
by LesNewell
Replied by LesNewell on topic Another green laner build
While waiting for the diff bits and throttle position sensor to come in I looked into mounting the sand ladders. I'd rather mount them outside as they get covered in mud. They are exactly the right length to fit on the roof rails. I'm thinking about using over centre latches to clamp them on, something along the lines of this:
The catch would be permanently attached to the rail and would hook over the ladder. I'm struggling to find suitable latches though - these ones don't have a safety catch. It would be too easy to a branch to hook on the handle and release it. About all I can find is these . They are a bit small though. Anyone have any better ideas?
The catch would be permanently attached to the rail and would hook over the ladder. I'm struggling to find suitable latches though - these ones don't have a safety catch. It would be too easy to a branch to hook on the handle and release it. About all I can find is these . They are a bit small though. Anyone have any better ideas?
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04 Nov 2021 04:24 #239851
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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Replied by Lambert on topic Another green laner build
What about a modified j bolt with a large washer and wing nut? Pass it through the board and hook under the rail. Or even just drill the rail and use a normal bolt that remains in place like a pin and have a wing nut and washer to retain the board? You could even cross drill the bolts to accommodate small padlocks?
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04 Nov 2021 09:55 #239854
by LesNewell
Replied by LesNewell on topic Another green laner build
I didn't think of using a J bolt. My biggest concern with that method is that when you remove the ladders you have loose bits that are easy to lose or drop in the mud, especially if you have cold fingers in the winter.
I had considered having a pin sticking up and using a linch pin through it. That's effectively how I did it on the Copelander, though those are on the side. The biggest down side is that the pins would stick up above the ladders and be vulnerable if I need to squeeze under a branch or fallen tree. With catches or J bolts, removing the sand ladders would gain me an extra 40mm clearance. Devon lanes can be very overgrown and tight (even for a Jimny) so clearance can be an issue sometimes.
One problem with using bolts or pins is reaching them when installing/removing the ladders. It's that much of an issue on a flat surface but if the car's at a funny angle in a lane it could be quite a stretch to reach above the ladders and do up the nut/linch pin.
I'm not that concerned about theft. The ladders will only be on there when I'm green laning. For normal driving they are likely to generate too much wind noise and drag.
I had considered having a pin sticking up and using a linch pin through it. That's effectively how I did it on the Copelander, though those are on the side. The biggest down side is that the pins would stick up above the ladders and be vulnerable if I need to squeeze under a branch or fallen tree. With catches or J bolts, removing the sand ladders would gain me an extra 40mm clearance. Devon lanes can be very overgrown and tight (even for a Jimny) so clearance can be an issue sometimes.
One problem with using bolts or pins is reaching them when installing/removing the ladders. It's that much of an issue on a flat surface but if the car's at a funny angle in a lane it could be quite a stretch to reach above the ladders and do up the nut/linch pin.
I'm not that concerned about theft. The ladders will only be on there when I'm green laning. For normal driving they are likely to generate too much wind noise and drag.
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04 Nov 2021 11:34 #239858
by Lambert
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Do it the other way then. Drill a hole in the rail and hook the j bolt onto the board then have the wing nut under the rail. It might even be possible to leave the j bolt in place without the board and still have clearance to the roof. That said anything I put on my cross bars is secured by cam straps.
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04 Nov 2021 17:18 #239865
by Riccy
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
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Car builder solutions have some decent stainless over centre latches either with a lock or with a cotter pin option...
www.carbuilder.com/uk/large-locking-stai...over-centre-fastener
www.carbuilder.com/uk/large-locking-stai...over-centre-fastener
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
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04 Nov 2021 19:30 #239868
by LesNewell
The last parts for the diff arrived today so I managed to get it built back up. It took most of the day as I'm making a big batch of CNC turned parts for a customer. I had to stop what I was doing every 2 minutes to feed the hungry machine. The throttle position sensor is due to arrive tomorrow so I may finally get to drive it on the weekend!
Replied by LesNewell on topic Another green laner build
I like that idea. The J bolts would remain attached to the car so no lost bits. I have some M6 stainless threaded bar that I could make them out of. Or for a better looking job, I found some suitable stainless J bolts on eBay . I'll have to do some measuring up tomorrow.Do it the other way then. Drill a hole in the rail and hook the j bolt onto the board then have the wing nut under the rail. It might even be possible to leave the j bolt in place without the board and still have clearance to the roof.
The last parts for the diff arrived today so I managed to get it built back up. It took most of the day as I'm making a big batch of CNC turned parts for a customer. I had to stop what I was doing every 2 minutes to feed the hungry machine. The throttle position sensor is due to arrive tomorrow so I may finally get to drive it on the weekend!
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