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Intermediate Exhaust pipe

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22 Nov 2022 17:52 #246048 by Munro
Hey there, new here, apologies in advance for any mistakes. i am seeking technical help!
My Jimny requires a new exhaust pipe to connect from the back box, forward towards the manifold. thinking i had the right part, i ordered a piece from CATS2U, however, they got back to me saying i should check and see if i had the right part and gave me the option of a different, slightly more expensive part. I have not idea which one i need, apart from shape, the only disserning factors i can see is that the pipe i ordered is for 1998 - 2012 models, and the one they are suggesting is for 2005 and onwards. i'll include links below.
I have a Jimny 1.3 VVT SZ3 3d 2011.
Any help or guidence would be greatly appreciated, this is a new project for me, first proper car!
Thanks,  Munro.

www.cats2u.co.uk/suzuki/37712-suzuki-jim...-0712-link-pipe.html      - the pipe i bought
www.cats2u.co.uk/suzuki/10408-suzuki-jim...05-on-link-pipe.html          - the pipe they recommend  

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22 Nov 2022 21:05 #246050 by DrRobin
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I looked in to this as my exhaust back box is on the way out.

The exhaust comprises four parts, the manifold and 1st CAT, the second CAT (in a pipe), then a connecting pipe and finally the ack box.

There are two different back boxes, one with a joint that comes straight out and another that has an elbow. These match up with the intermediate pipe, either with an elbow or straight.

So you have to get the connecting pipe to match the back box.

The connecting pipe joints to the second CAT pipe, there might be some slight differences in the spring loaded flange and again where the second CAT mounts to the manifold pipe.

The only way to tell is to have a look underneath, possibly photo the three joints and then match them up on the website. Or just do what I might do, replace all four parts.

I have photos and part numbers for my 2011, I can post tomorrow?

Robin

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22 Nov 2022 21:26 #246051 by Munro
Replied by Munro on topic Intermediate Exhaust pipe
Hey Robin,

Thanks for that, its really useful information. I'll try and get some photos of the underside sent to me as im not currently with the jeep. Hopefully from that i can work it out.
I see what you mean, from one of the pictures it definitly seems to have an almost 90 degree curve before the back box connection, im guessing the side of the pipe with the brace arm connects to the first CAT pipe?
Would be nice to see comparable photos of your jimny too?

Thanks and all the best,
Munro.

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22 Nov 2022 21:33 #246052 by Delux
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I'm sure Martin is probably the best person to answer this but I'm pretty sure the flange that bolts to the rear section is slightly different on convertibles (which usually have the G13BB engine)

Based on that the slightly dearer one is the one you need. As yours is a VVT I assume its a tin top rather than a convertible.

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22 Nov 2022 21:42 #246053 by Munro
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Hey,
Yeah it is a tin top 3 door, does that mean the less angled connection is the way to go?
Thanks,
Munro.

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23 Nov 2022 08:01 #246058 by Busta
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Stick your head under the back of the car and you will soon see which one you need.

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23 Nov 2022 13:57 #246061 by DrRobin
Replied by DrRobin on topic Intermediate Exhaust pipe
The pipe you bought has the elbow in it, suitable for a backbox without elbow.

The pipe they say you need doesn't have an elbow so fits the backbox which has the elbow in it.

My backbox from the same year has the elbow in it, so I need the first pipe. However, my backbox is rotting and CATS2U do a backbox in 409 stainless steel, but it doesn't have the elbow, so I will have to go for the more expensive pipe. See link for backbox with no elbow

www.cats2u.co.uk/suzuki/37585-suzuki-jim...st-box-silencer.html

It's easy to check which yours needs, just look under the back, if the pipe coming out from the backbox has an elbow in it before the flange then you need the first pipe.

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This was my shopping list to replace the whole lot in 409 stainless (backbox with no elbow). I haven't done it yet, I am hoping the old exhaust lasts to the spring when the weather will be better and I have more time.

2005 no elbow 409 Stainless
CAT - BM 91156H - £106.19
Pipe - BM 50270 - £31.25
Box - EEC ESZ106 - £58.82

Total £196.26
Inc Manifold = £330

Parts in Motion
Manifold BM91807H - £140.65
CAT - BM91156H - £86.71
Pipe - BM50270 - £38.08
Backbox -

Manifold - 409 Stainless CAT BM91807H - £165
www.cats2u.co.uk/suzuki/9691-suzuki-jimn...verter-bm91807h.html
Fittings included.


CAT - 409 Stainless
EEC - SI6013T, Suzuki - 14190-80AV0 £101.24
Fitting kit included
www.cats2u.co.uk/suzuki/32975-suzuki-jim...nverter-si6013t.html

BM - 91156H, - 14190-80AV0 £106.19
Fitting kit included, 1419076J32H02, 1419076J33H02, 1419076J34H02, 1419080A20, 1419080AV0, 1419080AVV, 1419081AV0
www.cats2u.co.uk/suzuki/8188-suzuki-jimn...91156h-fk91156c.html

EEC - SI6025T, Suzuki - 14190-80AV0 £188.45
Fitting kit included, 1419076J32H02, 1419076J33H02, 1419076J34H02, 1419080A20, 1419080AV0, 1419080AVV, 1419081AV0
www.cats2u.co.uk/suzuki/35968-suzuki-jim...nverter-si6025t.html

Pipe - 409 Stainless
EEC - ESZ105, Suzuki - 1426081A00, 1426081A01 £27.23
www.cats2u.co.uk/suzuki/37712-suzuki-jim...-0712-link-pipe.html

BM - 50270, Suzuki - 1426081A00, 1426081A01 £31.25
Includes fitting kit
www.cats2u.co.uk/suzuki/1849-suzuki-jimn...-0712-link-pipe.html

Backbox - 409 Stainless - Straight inlet
EEC - ESZ106, Suzuki - 1426081A10 £58.82
www.cats2u.co.uk/suzuki/37585-suzuki-jim...st-box-silencer.html

Hope that helps

Robin

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23 Nov 2022 14:00 #246062 by DrRobin
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PS I am leaning towards BM Catalysts parts from 'Parts in Motion' I used BM Catalysts for CATs on my other vehicle, shipped by Parts in Motion, they ship quickly and liked the quality of the BM parts.

Plus they are a UK company and their products are type appproved.

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23 Nov 2022 16:07 #246065 by Munro
Replied by Munro on topic Intermediate Exhaust pipe
Hey Robin,

Thanks again for the info, i dont quite have the funds to redo the whole exhaust system but i will definitely consult your list for future replacements! I should know tonight which pipe i need, thank you all for the help.

Munro.

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25 Nov 2022 14:20 #246115 by Munro
Replied by Munro on topic Intermediate Exhaust pipe
Hey,
Thanks to everyone that helped i am very grateful.
The part i needed was in fact the pipe with no elbow, the more expensive one.

All the best,
Munro.

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25 Nov 2022 16:24 #246120 by DrRobin
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Mine would need the straight pipe as my backbox has the elbow in it, funny that it is more expensive as it must be longer.

Except it is my backbox which is on the way out and CAT2U have a 409 stainless steel box which uses the elbow pipe so I am going to wait until it goes.

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25 Nov 2022 16:34 - 25 Nov 2022 16:34 #246121 by mlines
Replied by mlines on topic Intermediate Exhaust pipe
As a follow up to this.

Suzuki, of course, only fit a whole system in the factory. Therefore it does not matter where in the system there are joints as long as the mounting points are the same. So you will find a mix of systems fitted

Various parts suppliers over the years, and various models (G13, M13, Soft top, VVT etc.) mean that variants of the exhaust joint positions occur.

As a GENERALISATION, if you fit a whole exhaust system you can buy almost anything.

If you want to only replace a section then you have to get the correct length and correct joints to fit in with the rest of your system

Martin

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