Help! - Rear brake cylinder bolt size needed!

OK, so my brake saga continues down the slippery slope of doom

Having taken one of the drums off, to take the shoes off get the adjuster out to clean and service it, one of the solenoid rubber just falls off pretty much resulting in brake fluid everywhere. No problem, I have new ones I will fit those. OH NO YOU DON'T says Mr Jimny!

The brake line union nut was rusted on and rounded off with a sniff of the spanner, so I cut the line, fully prepared to rebuild the line. No problem, all I need to do is unbolt the cylinder . NO NO NO the J says again! These have rusted up and rounded off in no time.

Now I need to drill the heads off and find replacement bolts

So, I need to know the size and thread pitch of the rear bolts that hold the brake cylinders onto the back plate. Does anybody know? I will email the manufacturer anyway to ask, but just in case anybody here knows...

I want to cry very hard......

Normal 10mm bolt head size will fit from any one that sells bolts take the wheel cylinder with you and then you will no as for the pipe union that may be main dealer only if i remenber smoogy had truble finding new ones

The unions are not the problem, they are M10 bolts with a 1mm thread pitch. Halfords do them, and I also have some brass ones which I will fit to the cylinders as they wont rust up.

Its the bolts that hold the brake cylinder to the rear back plate they I need replacements for. They are smaller than 10mm across (thread diameter), probably about 5mm.

hello

suzuki part 01550-06123 BOLT (6mmX12mm)

gustavo

Do you remember last time you helped me and I said I could kiss you? Well this time..............

Many thanks again! I don't suppose you know the thread pitch? I have Googled the part number but I cant find the information.

Actually, it maybe a 1mm pitch. I found this link to another Suzkui forum:

www.suzuki-forums.com/suzuki-jimny-sierr...sami.html#post329011

...that has a link to a table that describes the pitches used for different bolts sizes, apparently used by Suzuki. Here is the link:

www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/M...ic-Thread-Pitch.aspx

I could always go Titanium! www.pro-bolt.com/titanium-hex-head-m6-x-...mm.html#.URVgaR1ri5I

Pop the rubbers out and warm the alloy cylinder up with a blowlamp and they will come out easily.

If you have destroyed the heads you will have to grind new flats, or put a slot across them.

They may well be fine pitch.
Standard ISO pitch is 1.0 for a 6mm thread, the fine pitch is 0.75mm. The Japanese have always used pressure die-casting for alloys, with fine pitched bolts. (The alloy corrodes much quicker than the traditional British sand casting alloys, but the die-cast ones don't have dirty great holes in them)

Pop down your local fastener supplier and get a couple of each

facade wrote: Pop the rubbers out and warm the alloy cylinder up with a blowlamp and they will come out easily.

If you have destroyed the heads you will have to grind new flats, or put a slot across them.

They may well be fine pitch.
Standard ISO pitch is 1.0 for a 6mm thread, the fine pitch is 0.75mm. The Japanese have always used pressure die-casting for alloys, with fine pitched bolts. (The alloy corrodes much quicker than the traditional British sand casting alloys, but the die-cast ones don't have dirty great holes in them)

Pop down your local fastener supplier and get a couple of each

The bolts are knackered but its raining so have abandoned for the day. Freezing and hacked off.

The old man is coming over in the week with a Dremel so should be able to get them out. There is not enough room to get a drill behind the plate and get it square onto the head to drill them out.

If all else fails then I will blow lamp them as suggested, thanks for the tip.

kirkynut wrote: You need a set of these:

www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/detai...-piece-bolt-grip-set

They are the tool you need for removing nuts or bolts that have rounded.

Then once you have got it out you can take it to compare to the ones in Halfords or to the fasteners to get replacements.

If they sheer however, you'll be buggered and will need new wheel cylinders -but they are not that expensive anyway. A motor factor may even stock the bolts if you have to get new cylinders. It's certainly not worth trying to drill the bolts out of cylinders for the cost of new cylinders.

Kirkynut

Thanks. I've got new cylinders anyway as I am going the whole hog and rebuilding the rear brakes. No messing around now

I know the size now so I will order some decent grade stainless bolts.

GuardianAngel wrote: I know the size now so I will order some decent grade stainless bolts.

They will seize rock solid into the alloy by the time that you have got the wheels back on.

Never use stainless into alloy without a good coat of an electrically isolating thread coating.

Cadmium plated or zinc passivate is more usual.