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4WD syst - no "CLACK CLACK" from my HUBS

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01 Feb 2013 09:27 #60513 by Laminak
Hi all B)

I have a problem too with my 4WD system :sick:
I change all my caoutchouc vacuum hoses by silicon hoses. :)

One of pipe was blocked. I freed it (is it correct :whistle: ).
All my servo-valve are ok and I have no flashing light
My vacuum intake operates (jimny 2001)

But I have no "clack clack" from my hub :dry: :dry: :blush: :blush: .

Do you think that I have leak in my vacuum pipes or my vacuum Hubs???

Perhaps , I have a leak on the lip-seal track from my hubs :sick:



lip-seal track from my hubs

I make a better picture later :)

What do you think about some ideas ???
  • increase the vacuum to compensate the leak
  • invert the system and using pressure to close my hubs
  • repair the track

Heeeeeelp :(

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01 Feb 2013 10:34 #60516 by GuardianAngel
Replied by GuardianAngel on topic Re: 4WD syst - no "CLACK CLACK" from my HUBS
Its funny because my 4WD system works but I have never heard the hubs engage.

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01 Feb 2013 10:43 #60519 by markyp2000
Replied by markyp2000 on topic Re: 4WD syst - no "CLACK CLACK" from my HUBS
Make shore you have the pipes the right way round ie is it sucking them off instead of sucking them on

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01 Feb 2013 10:54 #60522 by GuardianAngel
Replied by GuardianAngel on topic Re: Re: 4WD syst - no "CLACK CLACK" from my HUBS

markyp2000 wrote: Make shore you have the pipes the right way round ie is it sucking them off instead of sucking them on


Getting sucked off :blush:

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01 Feb 2013 11:26 #60524 by JivingDaddy
Replied by JivingDaddy on topic Re: Re: 4WD syst - no "CLACK CLACK" from my HUBS


Far too many of these on this site. :-)
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01 Feb 2013 11:28 #60525 by Laminak
I use a vacuum pump tool to test my pipes to suck. But it is getting sucked off :blush: :blush:

But, when I use a pressure my hubs operate. The pressure is higher than the vacuum pressure and then make operate my hub :blink: . It is for that I think I have a leak to my hubs :blush:

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01 Feb 2013 17:14 #60578 by kirkynut
I use the throw them in the bin and fit fixed or manual hubs technique or they would do my head in!

Mine were tempramental when I bought my Jimjam but knew of all the problems from reading the many posts on this site and bought fixed ones and cut down bearing nuts with the truck from KAP as a result of this knowledge. I went greenlaning before having had chance to fit them and they played up on the first lane.

It can't be hard to get the vacuum ones to stay fixed all the time. A bit of a clean up then chemical metal on the sliding ring gear would work a treat I'm sure.

I'veheard all the stuff about increased wear on the front axle components from fixed hubs blah blah blah - but really? My old SJ410 was sold with fixed hubs and did 90k on them fine before my ownership with it's wheezy 1.0L engine, so I think the Jimny will cope ok!

Kirkynut

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01 Feb 2013 19:44 #60600 by Laminak
Just a little test...
My left hub operates... I test suction and clack click is ok...

But the right hub don't operate... sucked off...

I do a sealing test later

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01 Feb 2013 20:04 #60601 by markyp2000
Replied by markyp2000 on topic Re: Re: 4WD syst - no "CLACK CLACK" from my HUBS
One pipe sucks them on and the other sucks them off make shore you have both sucking on pipes one ether side in the right position and also the same with the to sucking off pipes other wise you may have one hub sucking on and the other sucking off whn putting in 4wd

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02 Feb 2013 11:34 #60639 by Laminak
Thanks markyp2000
but I disconnect my right hub to test it (same as the maintenance manual says)

It is for that I think I have leak to my hub...

Is it possible to repair or it is better to fit manual hub

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02 Feb 2013 12:30 #60648 by facade
Check the wheel bearings.

If the bearing is worn there will be a vacuum leak that stops the hub releasing.

It will release if you blow down the other pipe.

The hubs work because of atmospheric pressure entering the pipe that doesn't have vacuum applied, so blowing into a pipe will operate the hub in the reverse sense.

you should be able to pull a vacuum on each spigot pipe, and it should stay for a few seconds.

If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there :)

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03 Feb 2013 12:59 - 03 Feb 2013 13:12 #60753 by Laminak
Replied by Laminak on topic 4WD syst - no "CLACK CLACK" from my HUBS
I put myself questions…

I say myself “that will not return… what is fall in default !!! :sick: ”.
I have changed the servo-valve, replaced my African hubs :S … and my old hose connections by silicon hose :) … It is necessary that I must find this leak… And it is not sure that the repair is efficient :blush: .

Would it be more judicious to put manual hubs and what can I fit ???
  • hubs from AVM,
  • hubs AINSIN of Sj/Vitara + spacer
What is better stronger and so economic B)
Quid??? :dry:
Last edit: 03 Feb 2013 13:12 by Laminak. Reason: correction

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