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IDEA TO PREVENT BEARING FAILURES COMMENTS PLEASE
- RED JIMNY
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10 Apr 2012 20:22 #37232
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I’m sick of changing King pin & wheel bearings in my Jimny.
The other day I had an idea. The bearings general fail as a result of ingress of water / mud into the axle housing probably through the swivel seal.
Since I have long changed to manual hubs, my idea was to introduce a positive pressure down the 4 redundant pipes for the vacuum hubs thus preventing the water getting in.
At first I thought about tapping into the exhaust manifold but I’ve since gone off this idea due to corrosive nature of exhaust fumes.
So I’m currently thinking about a small pump such as windscreen washer pump or if this is not man enough a small compressor. This could be operated by a switch on the dash before entering water. Due to time constraints I probably never get around to trying this but what do you guys think?
The other day I had an idea. The bearings general fail as a result of ingress of water / mud into the axle housing probably through the swivel seal.
Since I have long changed to manual hubs, my idea was to introduce a positive pressure down the 4 redundant pipes for the vacuum hubs thus preventing the water getting in.
At first I thought about tapping into the exhaust manifold but I’ve since gone off this idea due to corrosive nature of exhaust fumes.
So I’m currently thinking about a small pump such as windscreen washer pump or if this is not man enough a small compressor. This could be operated by a switch on the dash before entering water. Due to time constraints I probably never get around to trying this but what do you guys think?
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10 Apr 2012 21:15 #37244
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Replied by Bish on topic Re: IDEA TO PREVENT BEARING FAILURES COMMENTS PLEASE
The theory is sound. why not give it a go it can't do any harm.
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11 Apr 2012 11:29 #37276
by kirkynut
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Replied by kirkynut on topic Re: IDEA TO PREVENT BEARING FAILURES COMMENTS PLEASE
I read an article in Total Off road about a chap with a Series LR who did not want to lose his drum brakes for some stupid reason but built it into a challenge truck, so was going through muddy water alot. He drilled his drum back plates and screwed fittings in for compressed air connected to a compressor and turned it on when wading.
It worked well apparently.
So it's worth a try and is something I've considered since reading that article, however, I am not happy with the other effects of muddy water on my Jimjam and would like it to last the test of time, so I've just stopped driving through crap!
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It worked well apparently.
So it's worth a try and is something I've considered since reading that article, however, I am not happy with the other effects of muddy water on my Jimjam and would like it to last the test of time, so I've just stopped driving through crap!
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11 Apr 2012 14:23 #37291
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Replied by adamjimny on topic Re: IDEA TO PREVENT BEARING FAILURES COMMENTS PLEASE
I may have a look at work for the bits needed because iv googled it all including positive pressures etc and seems to work well
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11 Apr 2012 21:47 #37357
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Replied by teafortwo0789 on topic Re: IDEA TO PREVENT BEARING FAILURES COMMENTS PLEASE
Sounds a fair idea. I've been wondering if it might be possible to use rubber TWO swivel seals under the metal ring per side! Crazy or might it be practicle??
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12 Apr 2012 09:01 #37396
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Replied by wanderinstar on topic Re: IDEA TO PREVENT BEARING FAILURES COMMENTS PLEASE
I think you and I are working to the same goal. We ought to put our heads together,.
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12 Apr 2012 10:51 #37405
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re: IDEA TO PREVENT BEARING FAILURES COMMENTS PLEASE
No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationWhy not fit Landrover Gaiters, I dont know about the rubber ones but the older leather ones can be made to fit.
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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12 Apr 2012 11:44 #37408
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Replied by X-Eng Simon on topic Re: IDEA TO PREVENT BEARING FAILURES COMMENTS PLEASE
Pressure from the crank case (rocker cover) might be sufficient?
I've made my own gaiters for all kinds of things like this out of leather, 'stitched' with small cable ties. I bought a sheet of soft leather on eBay which is easy to cut and has made a dozen or so gaiters of one sort or another. If you rub grease into the surface before fitting, it waterproofs it. Then fill the interior with grease to lubricate the joint. It's actually the grease providing the waterproofing and the gaiter to stop the grease escaping.
Si
I've made my own gaiters for all kinds of things like this out of leather, 'stitched' with small cable ties. I bought a sheet of soft leather on eBay which is easy to cut and has made a dozen or so gaiters of one sort or another. If you rub grease into the surface before fitting, it waterproofs it. Then fill the interior with grease to lubricate the joint. It's actually the grease providing the waterproofing and the gaiter to stop the grease escaping.
Si
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14 Apr 2012 20:32 #37594
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Replied by oxford_bloke on topic Re: IDEA TO PREVENT BEARING FAILURES COMMENTS PLEASE
just a thought could you not do something with the vacum pump. as there must be an exhaust of some kind on it
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20 Apr 2012 17:58 #38136
by suzuki jimny fella
Replied by suzuki jimny fella on topic Re: IDEA TO PREVENT BEARING FAILURES COMMENTS PLEASE
hi my swiwl seal is starting to leak agen can i just buy the rubber seal and cv seal or do i have to buy the swiwl seal kit
or can i make my own swiwl seal lol lol
or can i make my own swiwl seal lol lol
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20 Apr 2012 19:19 #38159
by kirkynut
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Replied by kirkynut on topic Re: IDEA TO PREVENT BEARING FAILURES COMMENTS PLEASE
It's your axle oil seal that's leaking so you need to strip it and replace that along with whatever else is worn and allowing enough play in the shaft to make it leak - kingpin or wheel bearings.
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20 Apr 2012 19:43 #38165
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Replied by suzuki jimny fella on topic Re: IDEA TO PREVENT BEARING FAILURES COMMENTS PLEASE
thought it was
when i frist got my jimny the king pins had gone and was leaking all over the road but when i got new king pins and bearings and swiwl seal from j&j motors thay didnt give that axle seal that was one year ago and now its strating to leak agen
thay done me for £160 for that lot and no little axle seal
would my swiwl seal be ok though guys and just do the little axle seal
any one cleaned and painted the swiwl ball for a better seal lol lol
when i frist got my jimny the king pins had gone and was leaking all over the road but when i got new king pins and bearings and swiwl seal from j&j motors thay didnt give that axle seal that was one year ago and now its strating to leak agen
thay done me for £160 for that lot and no little axle seal
would my swiwl seal be ok though guys and just do the little axle seal
any one cleaned and painted the swiwl ball for a better seal lol lol
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