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jimny 4th gen front foglights

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30 Jun 2020 08:32 - 30 Jun 2020 08:33 #224271 by manos
I bought the new jimny gen 4 and the front fog lights are always on during the day, unable to switch them off from the indicator lever. at night when lights are on the lever works fine,

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30 Jun 2020 08:52 #224274 by Soeley
The lights are dual purpose. Two bulbs in each light.
One is the foglight.
The other is the DRL (Daytime Running Light)

The DRLs will switch off when the dipped beam headlight is turned on. The fog lights can be turned on once the side lights are on.

The DRLs cannot be switched off.

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30 Jun 2020 10:56 #224279 by manos
Replied by manos on topic jimny 4th gen front foglights
thank you! isn't that a quirk? why do we need the lights on during daytime? what about the lifetime of these lights if they are always on?

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30 Jun 2020 11:17 #224281 by Doctorchris
DRLs are a legal requirement. The bulbs are cheap. Just check them regularly, which you are obviously doing and replace as necessary.

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30 Jun 2020 12:01 #224283 by Soeley

manos wrote: thank you! isn't that a quirk? why do we need the lights on during daytime? what about the lifetime of these lights if they are always on?


Where are you based? As said above DRLs are now a legal requirement for cars built after a certain date for Europe and probably more countries as well.

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30 Jun 2020 13:24 #224286 by CC Baxter
Soeley, as far as I am aware DRLs are not a legal requirement, they're a type approval requirement. A car built after a set date must leave the factory with them.
Somewhere on the forum there's an MOT station chap who can probably shed more light on this. Chris

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30 Jun 2020 13:29 #224287 by Scimike
Gov uk web site:-
Vehicle manufacturers must fit DRL to new types of passenger car and light goods vehicle (car derived vans) type approved to European vehicle requirements from February 20111 . In practice this means that any new model launched after this date, and many launched before, will be fitted with DRL. However, existing models on sale before this date without DRL fitted can continue to be sold and used indefinitely.
DRL activate automatically when the engine is started and remain on unless the headlamps are switched on. They may however remain off in some low speed and stationary situations. In general all other lights should remain off when the DRL are on but for a limited period some vehicles may be available which automatically activate the rear position lamps at the same time as the DRL.

DRL may be combined with other lamps. For example some manufacturers use the same lamp for both the DRL and position lamp. In these cases the DRL automatically dims to function as a lower intensity position lamp when the headlamps are turned on. DRL placed close to direction indicators may also automatically dim when the direction indicator is active. This is to ensure that the direction indicator is not masked by the light from the DRL.
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30 Jun 2020 15:48 #224288 by manos
Replied by manos on topic jimny 4th gen front foglights
I'm in greece, this law is absurd, requires lights on during daytime from manufacturers? the success of the jimny in europe probably led to its prohibition, european cars are money pits & very expensive

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30 Jun 2020 16:03 #224289 by CC Baxter
Thanks for that Mike, I confess I don't keep up to date with this stuff anymore but it's still a subject that interests me. The conflict between type approval and the law, your last paragraph explaining the different ways the lights can work is classic type approval. The manufacturers have to jump through hoops to satisfy the codes but the law on occasion will shy away from new legislation as the rules are too vague and hard to define.
Most type approval codes will find themselves in law but some won't, I believe TPMS still occupies this shady world and it's been around for ever. I wouldn't imagine anyone removing DRLs for the sake of it (what's the point) but other TA stuff that annoys you maybe. Chris

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