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JB74 - Gen.4 5 wheel Tyre rotation
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Bob1050 wrote:
DAGZOOK wrote: Hello all,
I've got a question for all fellow Gen. 4 owners regarding tyre rotation. I'm of the understanding that that the spare on the Gen.4 doesn't have a TPMS sensor fitted. Does this mean that you'll have an error light displayed whilst the spare is fitted in a rotation situation? Or as others online seem to suggest, the spare won't transmit a pressure signal - but the wheel now mounted on the spare rack (with a TPMS sensor fitted and correctly inflated) will keep the system behaving?
I was hoping someone has conducted a real life test. I want carry out a 5 wheel rotation as I feel its best practice - I do relatively high millage on the tarmac but also use the car off road frequently whilst at the local shoot. I figure it'll be the best way to prolong the life of my tyres whilst also being mechanically sympathetic to the AWD system.
It would be a real nuisance if carrying out a 5 wheel rotation would mean you've got to persevere with a highly irritating warning light on the dash.
I will happily supply a definitive answer based on personal experience. I have a 2019 G4 Jimny and have undertaken the 5 Tyre rotation twice. All 5 wheels/tyres came with TPMS factory fitted and other than checking/resetting tyre pressures - it was a simple job. Just remember to check your tyre pressures when stone cold. Trust this helps clarify myth from fact.
Really appreciate the constructive response Bob! I guess there's only one way to truly find out and that's to test my spare as you've done. Hopefully we draw the same conclusion because the TPMS warning system sounds like an absolute nightmare to live with.
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When in 4wd any difference in tyre size is completely insignificant compared to the stress on the transmission caused by turning a corner. If having different sized tyres could harm the transmission, then turning a corner would destroy it! Clearly it is ok to use 4wd when turning corners, as long as you are are not on a high traction surface, therefore it is also ok to have slightly different sized tyres.
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If there is a financial cost to having the spare tyre in the rotation (e.g. dismounting a tyre to move a TPS) then I personally wouldn't bother, just rotate the 4 road wheels.
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It was that part of the manual that prompted my comment about moving tyres from wheel to wheel.CC Baxter wrote: It would appear not quite the definitive answer to 5 wheel rotation. My car could not read the spare on TPMS and I tested it to be sure. A line in the hand book suggested this to be the case.
I lost interest in the restrictions imposed by TPMS and fitted an emulator.
Chris
So, it's not certain whether the spare has TPMS fitted, or not?
Emulator? Tell me more
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When I first mentioned these things there were some concerns raised over insurance acceptance and general legality. On the basis of these concerns I cannot recommend one, but I like mine very much. Chris
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CC Baxter wrote: It would appear not quite the definitive answer to 5 wheel rotation. My car could not read the spare on TPMS and I tested it to be sure. A line in the hand book suggested this to be the case.
I lost interest in the restrictions imposed by TPMS and fitted an emulator.
Chris
How strange that my Jimny was supplied by the dealer with 5 inter-changeable wheels/tyres (all with TPMS) and yours wasn't. As the Jimny is supplied with a full sixed spare and designed for going off-road I'd have thought all Jimny's had TPMS on all 5 wheels/tyres? After twice doing the "5 Tyre Rotation" it's all been rather easy to do and I'm getting fairly even tyre wear at 15k miles. Bad news will be forking out big bucks for 5 new tyres all at once, rather than just buying a pair at a time for each axle.
One advantage of doing the tyre rotation is taking the opportunity to deep clean the rear of the rims and also do in behind the spare wheel bracket. I'm also confident that all my wheel nits are correctly torqued up and a very light smear of copper grease on the hubs/threads minimises the risk of experiencing 'alloy/steel hub weld' if you need to change a wheel on a dark rainy night.
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