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Re:Re:Re:Advice about mud tyres

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27 Sep 2019 09:26 #213920 by ajdm48
I have bought my first Jimny- 2007 VVT auto, standard- to go up and down a steep lane to our woodland.
It's been great this first summer, and sailed up and down the track- in 2wd.
Then it rained. So I turned on the 4wd. And then it slipped and slipped, and then it slid.
It slid gracefully into the fence on the camber: mud over chalk/flint.

We got it down, went home and I looked at the tyres- Dueler H/T 205/70 R15 96Ts. I think I need mud tyres, but I don't want to install any lift.

Any advice about the best ones? I use it on the road to get to and from the woodland- about 45min each way- so I can put up with noise.

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Alastair
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27 Sep 2019 09:52 #213922 by Daniel30
have a read up on the wiki section might help.... i can't really comment on muds because i have a lift on mine, you will be surprise at how good AT tyres are i had General Grabbers on mine and couldn't fault them, that was without a lift.

www.bigjimny.com/mediawiki/index.php?tit...age_-_best_practices

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27 Sep 2019 10:05 #213923 by ajdm48
Thanks, Daniel. I looked at the wiki and AT sound good. I may go for General Grabbers.

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27 Sep 2019 10:13 #213924 by mlines
I would also check that 4wd is working.

I know that wet grass, slippery flint and ice can defeat 4wd (and had the scratches on a Discovery, Range Rover and Jimny to prove it). However it is worth a check as slightly fatter/ beefier tyres can actually make the issue worse. Your standard thin tyres should better cut the surface

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27 Sep 2019 10:34 #213927 by Lambert
Personally I would suggest that you look at a 195.80r15 for serious mud, as like Martin says you need a narrower tyre to bite through the surface slime and find traction.

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27 Sep 2019 18:18 #213936 by Scimike
Anything All terrain AT or Mud Terrain MT is going to be better than the Dueler which is a Highway or road biased tyre. I would also suggest checking your 4x4 system is engaging ok, head out of the window and spinning front tyres should be enough to confirm.

I have a Land Rover with very aggressive MT tyres fitted even these can struggle in some circumstances. I say this with experience as driving in a rain soaked (flat ish) wooded area was the most challenging off road day I have ever experienced. More challenging than the numerous pay and play sites I have visited. The mud in the woodland offered zero traction, and as your vehicle I just slipped sideways with the lay of the land.
Not going in any direction I wanted, I eventually came to rest on a tree. It was only when I gave up trying to fight the situation any just pointed the front wheels in the direction I was slipping did I gain a small amount of control, enough to drive out and have a cup of calming tea..
Your picture reminded me of my "sliding slowly into a tree" day out. Maybe all woodlands are the same slippy stuff?
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28 Sep 2019 09:19 #213963 by RainerK
The first thing I would do, is check and reduce the air pressure in the tires.

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18 Oct 2019 09:17 #214891 by ajdm48
Many thanks for all your suggestions. SciMike- your experience was exactly like mine! I checked the 4WD and it's fine. The main dilemma seems to be whether to make the tyres fatter to float over the mud (e.g. by deflating) or use thinner tyres to cut through the mud. After reading the Wiki as Daniel30 suggests, I realised I should have tried, as RainerK says, the first option- simply deflating. Yesterday, full of trepidation, we set off up the slope after some very heavy rain with pressures down to 1.1 bar or so and with as light a foot on the accelerator as I could manage. Lo and behold, she crawled up with only an occasional squiggle. In fact, coming down afterwards was much hairier- maybe my technique (Low 4WD lowest gear, braking slightly) needs improvement. Thanks to all who replied.

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18 Oct 2019 09:34 #214892 by RainerK
I go down with the pressure to 0.9bar sometimes.

But before I go back on the road, I inflate the tires again.

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01 Nov 2019 10:21 #215264 by ajdm48
Thanks, RainerK. It's doing great on slippery mud and leaves at 1 bar. I am careful to re-inflate, though!!

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