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First trip out

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31 May 2016 17:00 - 31 May 2016 17:01 #167777 by Terminator
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We did our first green lane outing yesterday, for a standard Jimmy ,it did very well,we only got stuck twice.Just got some new tyres and suspension today,so that will be going on very soon.
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31 May 2016 17:01 #167779 by Daniel30
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Good stuff :) don't forget the pics when your done ;)

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31 May 2016 17:17 #167780 by Terminator
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I thought I'd added some pics,but they didn't show.I was very surprised how well the Jimmy did, it bottomed out onto the towbar of all thing. We also need to put spacers on to widen the track as well

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31 May 2016 17:57 #167782 by Busta
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If you are driving in ruts, spacers will make it more likely to get stuck in the ruts and harder to steer out and straddle the ruts!

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31 May 2016 19:30 #167791 by Terminator
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The problem we had was that the ruts have been formed mainly by landrovers and the width of the Jimny is so much narrower and tended to rub hard on the inner edge of the tyres ,having spacers fitted will make the track width similar to the landy width.

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01 Jun 2016 16:10 #167826 by Terminator
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As I mentioned above,what do you guys think about fitting spacers to widen the track. We did seem to be rubbing on the inner face of the tyres and ruts.

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01 Jun 2016 20:58 #167835 by Keithy
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Not a fan of spacers and bodging in general.

-30 offset wheels with 215/225's tougher sidewalls on the tyres?.....Most of the vehicles in the club I'm a member of are Landrovers.....I tend to have one wheel in one wheel out mostly.

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01 Jun 2016 21:55 #167839 by Busta
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The trouble with driving in ruts made by bigger vehicles is eventually the ruts get too deep for a Jimny and you get stuck. The solution to being able to drive in landrover ruts is a never ending cycle of bigger tyres, more lift and lower gearing. Without spacers and with decent tyres, that sidewall grip will help you climb out of the rut one side at a time and then you can choose a different route. With spacers, both sides are trying to climb out at the same time and it's twice as hard to get out of the ruts. They also cause the tyres to rub on the arches if you have larger than standard tyres. And they increase bearing wear.

That's from my experience. If the ruts are shallow you are ok, but if yours is the lowest vehicle in the club you will end up dragging your guts everywhere unless you can get out of the ruts!

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04 Jun 2016 03:28 #167927 by kirkynut
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I would not try to get the same track as a Land Rover as it is a bit more than 60mm!

Suzukis run with one wheel out of the ruts created by Land Rovers and this helps you to not get stuck as with both wheels in the ruts you'll bottom out more often and as has been said above, you'll have a never ending pursuit of trying to match bigger tyres to the ruts.

This ends with a well sorted Jimny with a Rocklobster to reduce gearing to cope with the bigger tyres but lots of money spent.

If I was building a greenlaner for not too extreme lanes, so not The Lakes or the trickier ones Wales and Derbyshire have to offer, I would stick with just a 2" lift and 215 / 75 / 15 tyres and a winch.

On the other end of the scale is the ultimate greenlaner such as Dave of Bits4Vits fame's car. A lot of cash has been invested in that though. You need to plan your project as if you'll not be satisfied with my suggested mods and will want to go all out, you'll be better off going for a 3" or 4" lift now and ordering the Rocklobster now too!

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04 Jun 2016 08:10 #167936 by Terminator
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We are fitting the 2" lift kit today and have a set of 215-75-15 mud tyres to go on, just doing a basic service oil change brakes as well.The lanes we went down were not as extreme as some,we grounded out on the tow bar ,so that's coming off.we don't want to spend a fortune,its only for a bit of weekend fun.

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04 Jun 2016 13:34 #167954 by X8GGY
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I would not try to get the same track as a Land Rover as it is a bit more than 60mm!

Suzukis run with one wheel out of the ruts created by Land Rovers and this helps you to not get stuck as with both wheels in the ruts you'll bottom out more often and as has been said above, you'll have a never ending pursuit of trying to match bigger tyres to the ruts.

This ends with a well sorted Jimny with a Rocklobster to reduce gearing to cope with the bigger tyres but lots of money spent.

If I was building a greenlaner for not too extreme lanes, so not The Lakes or the trickier ones Wales and Derbyshire have to offer, I would stick with just a 2" lift and 215 / 75 / 15 tyres and a winch.

On the other end of the scale is the ultimate greenlaner such as Dave of Bits4Vits fame's car. A lot of cash has been invested in that though. You need to plan your project as if you'll not be satisfied with my suggested mods and will want to go all out, you'll be better off going for a 3" or 4" lift now and ordering the Rocklobster now too!

Kirkynut


Thank You Kirkynut, but even mine gets stuck now and again ;)

Interesting, as my new build has a simple 2" lift of new front springs on the back and new frint springs on the front with a pair of spring spacers combined with Monroe Adventure shocks - stanard length on the back with bottom shock spacers / repositioners, and GV rears on the front... a 1" bodylift and 235/75/15 tyres... standard radius arms, KAP adjustable panhards, and a Redacted rocklobster on the way... keep it Simple and light this time ;)

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08 Jun 2016 21:00 #168222 by Terminator
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Is there such thing as greenlaning etiquette ?is one wheel in a track and one out ,straddling the tracks,Rather than getting stuck.

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