BigJimnyMeet (North) 2024 (12 Jan 2024)
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I'm clearly biased as an owner, but I think Suzuki did a near-perfect job with Gen4, given the constraints around producing a car that meets modern safety regulations. Aesthetically it's perfect - not a twee retro-pastiche like a Chrysler PT cruiser, but a design that maximises interior space while looking different to anything else on the round and having hints of the past. It manages to look cute without being girly and has road presence without being big. Genius design.Groenewald wrote: What do you guys think of the direction Suzuki took with the Gen4?
Less keen on the electronics and 'safety' systems, which are clearly just slapped on to get extra stars in safety tests, rather than adding anything worthwhile to the car or driving experience. More configurability in terms of disabling those functions (e.g. traction control when off-road, permanently disabling AEB etc) would have been nice.
The engine hasn't been around long enough for me to have a real opinion. Although another 20bhp would have been nice, in truth 100bhp is enough and I'll swallow that and the relatively poor economy if it turns out to be bulletproof and cheap to maintain for the life of the car. If it doesn't then the basic normally-aspirated design hasn't been of any benefit and they should have just stuck a small turbo unit in.
Other than that I'd have liked to see better anti-corrosion from the factory and a volume knob for the stereo, but that's about it. It delivers exactly what most people wanted, a more modern Jimny with more power, better economy, more space and more comfort without losing any of the off-road capability.
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It's a legal requirement and as a result, you are not able to mess with the settings. There has been a lot of discussion on this forum about changing the TPMS to suit personal requirements, but as you would be modifying a legal requirement you would be dabbling your boots in very murky waters.
The Gen 4 is an in your face proper 4x4 with no pretensions to be anything else. Its a box with nice square edges and I can get my 6' 2" frame into it with ease. I bought one because I loved the look of it and time hasn't dimmed that view. On a visual aspect the Gen 3 is close to the Gen 1 and the Gen 4 is close to the Gen 2.
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it would be pointless to have the settings for either of these to be set so low that by the time they were activated, the tyres had been damaged or an accident had happened.
Bit like an idiot light for low oil pressure.
As far as I can ascertain, there is no provision in law for the system to be turned off if low range is selected. Probably because the number of vehicles that have that ability does not warrant a change in the law.
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If you want to drive a 4x4 that doesn't have TPMS or any of the other safety related systems, then go and buy an SJ413 or early Defender or even a Fourtrack.
As to the comment about getting 4 flat tyres at the same time think again. Viv and I were on the M5 in Worcestershire when a skip shed a load of metal swarf that shred the tyres on a dozen or so cars. Bloody chaos and yes it's unusual but it happened and it's because of it that the powers that be keep coming up with their idea of what to do about it.
Whether we agree with it is irrelevant.
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The first owner had never noticed or checked, neither had the supplying dealer, although they'd only owned it a few months.
Reducing the tyre pressures to 26psi improved the ride quality no end, and l've never heard from the TPMS.
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Obviously the dealer should alter tyre pressures before sale.
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