Adjustable panhard = terminal death wobble

Rhinoman wrote: Well tonight I pressed out the SuperPro bushes, on inspection they were both split but I can't say when that happened. I replaced them the Bits4vits bushes which seem stiffer and seem t be thicker. With the bushes ftted they were too wide so I had to trim them with a sharp knife. I will find out tomorrow of there is an improvement. If the DW has gone then it will stay like that for a while, I have a 450mile round trip to Tong at the weekend and today I was told that I will be on a training course in Birmingham next week - company car supplied.

Ahm, yes, they are a bit of a squeeze into JimnyBits panhards, as they designed their bush holding end loops around the SuperPro bushes... The bushes fit fine into other brands and stock panhards though, but may need a little trim when fitted in conjuction with JimnyBits panhards...

Yes, they are made of firmer poly than SuperPro bushes, hence offering Rhinoman some to try to hopefully eradicate the DWs...

It seems promising, I did get a little bit of a wobble a couple of times today but it didn't kick off so the Bits4vits bushes will certainly stay in place for now. I will test some other options when I get a chance.

Awesome!

My Jimny did this when my panhard rod was bent the original one .... Have you adjusted it properly? My adjustable one sorted it straight away

I don't know if this has anything to do with it but one of these must be broken, it may be that it didn't survive the shakes.

My old eyes are getting a bit dim, and the picture is a bit small, but it looks like there is nothing broken: the left one is locked, and the right one is free.

The sliding centre on the left one looks a bit dry though. maybe it was stuck on the CV splines, or that grease around the rim has blocked the vacuum port that disengages it.


The splined centre pops in and out with your fingers.

The vacuum to engage the hub goes on the inside of the oilseal, applied between the CV splines and the inside of the hub nut, the vauum to disengage the hub is applied through the balls in the wheelbearing and goes around the outside of the black oilseal. Too much grease in the wong place can bung up the tiny vacuum ports in the hub assembly or possibly the FWH itself.

If youv'e been running with one hub locked and one free it can make a difference to death wobble.

Hubs have been replaced but no change.

Hey,

I also developed this problem after fitting the JB adjustable panhard with superpro bushes.
Did Russ say anything regarding this?

Thanks

Russ sent me a Panhard with slightly smaller 'holes' for the bushes to stiffen them up, he was going to send me some new bushes because my originals split but I haven't received any. I am going to try the OE Suzuki bushes but I've been rather preoccupied with some family issues so I'm currently playing 'catch up'. I have done around 600 miles with the Bits4Vits bushes and although I have a minor wobble, which may be caused by something else, it hasn't developed into the DW so I've been living with it.

Rhinoman wrote: Russ sent me a Panhard with slightly smaller 'holes' for the bushes to stiffen them up, he was going to send me some new bushes because my originals split but I haven't received any. I am going to try the OE Suzuki bushes but I've been rather preoccupied with some family issues so I'm currently playing 'catch up'. I have done around 600 miles with the Bits4Vits bushes and although I have a minor wobble, which may be caused by something else, it hasn't developed into the DW so I've been living with it.

Thanks Rhinoman.
Do you know how much smaller Russ made the holes? I was considering making larger steel inserts (and pressing them in to stiffen the bush) as it will be inconvenient for Russ to send more parts to South Africa.
In the meantime I put the stock rubber bushes in the panhard and it has helped

reflexsa wrote:

Rhinoman wrote: Russ sent me a Panhard with slightly smaller 'holes' for the bushes to stiffen them up, he was going to send me some new bushes because my originals split but I haven't received any. I am going to try the OE Suzuki bushes but I've been rather preoccupied with some family issues so I'm currently playing 'catch up'. I have done around 600 miles with the Bits4Vits bushes and although I have a minor wobble, which may be caused by something else, it hasn't developed into the DW so I've been living with it.

Thanks Rhinoman.
Do you know how much smaller Russ made the holes? I was considering making larger steel inserts (and pressing them in to stiffen the bush) as it will be inconvenient for Russ to send more parts to South Africa.
In the meantime I put the stock rubber bushes in the panhard and it has helped

Perhaps try some Bits4Vits Panhard Bushes then Reflexsa?

Dave (Bits4Vits)

Jimny-Dave wrote:
Perhaps try some Bits4Vits Panhard Bushes then Reflexsa?

Dave (Bits4Vits)

Haha I want to but they will take a while to get here and at a cost.
I've also been considering re-making the eccentric inserts for my castor correction bushes slightly more eccentric as my castor is about 0.6 degree less then stock.