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Mounting a Kap winch bumper

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04 Mar 2012 22:00 - 04 Mar 2012 22:11 #34859 by Mud_Muppet
Mounting a Kap winch bumper was created by Mud_Muppet
Hey up people, to cut a long story short, fitted my superwinch lp10000 in the week and went to give it a trial run today, and BOOM the winch ripped the front bumper clean off, now this kap bumper was supposed to be welded on ( by blue tack ), ive got a video somewhere ill post it soon,

Anyone got a photo of how they welded it on, and properly, lesson learned should have checked the welds really, was done by the previous owner :(

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2001 Red Tin Top,
4.5 inch ORA lift kit,
Pro Comp steering damper
Kap Winch Bumper,
White Weller offset Rims with 30" Insa Turbo Special Tracks,
CB Radio,
Stripped Interia
Roof Rack with 4 front Wipac,
Rear Wipac recovery Lights
.....Plenty more on its way !!!!
Last edit: 04 Mar 2012 22:11 by Mud_Muppet. Reason: Adding video

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04 Mar 2012 22:14 #34860 by TomDK
Replied by TomDK on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
Why not instead drill some 12mm holes and then bolt it on ?

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04 Mar 2012 22:16 #34862 by Mud_Muppet
Replied by Mud_Muppet on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
Would it be strong enought though, i know many like the ORA is weld on !
2001 Red Tin Top,
4.5 inch ORA lift kit,
Pro Comp steering damper
Kap Winch Bumper,
White Weller offset Rims with 30" Insa Turbo Special Tracks,
CB Radio,
Stripped Interia
Roof Rack with 4 front Wipac,
Rear Wipac recovery Lights
.....Plenty more on its way !!!!

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04 Mar 2012 22:29 #34863 by TomDK
Replied by TomDK on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
I'd say, that if you have a winch that can snap 4 12mm bolts. Then it's not mounted on a jimny :-)

As far as I know, ARB winch bumpers are bolted on.
I have just bought myself an ORA bumper. Have not seen it yet myself as I'm not home until start of may. But I actually believed that is was supposed a bolt-on. However, I'll bolt it on no matter what :-)

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04 Mar 2012 22:42 #34866 by darthloachie
Replied by darthloachie on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
our vintage ORA is bolt on and takes the strain of the 13,000 lb winch no problems
there are 6 bolts holding it on

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04 Mar 2012 22:46 #34867 by TomDK
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darthloachie wrote: our vintage ORA is bolt on and takes the strain of the 13,000 lb winch no problems
there are 6 bolts holding it on


Are your's the same as they're selling cheap these days?

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04 Mar 2012 23:40 #34869 by vitara_mad
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wow it still suprises me how some will weld on something that is that important when they can't do the job right

as far as i know there is no fully bolt on winch bumper available for the jimny as theres no way to bolt it on

the bumpers ive seen all have weld on brackets & then bumper bolts to the brackets

most winches only have 4 m10 bolts holding it the the mount so if they can hold it on im sure 4 or 6 m12 bolts will be good enough to hold a winch bumper on

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05 Mar 2012 06:35 #34875 by mlines
Replied by mlines on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
Hi,

Mine is a KAP bumper, although it was modified to take a winch later in its life (it was the original KAP one that would not take a winch.

However, my car was originally supplied by KAP so they welded it on in their garage. It was subsequently modified by ORA to take a winch, again a lot of welding was done at this point. We have happily winched with it on lots of occasions.

You are welcome to come over and have a look at how mine is mounted (although the car is jammed in the garage with the rear axle off so its a bit of a crawl to look under and see the bumper.

I also know of a small engineering company in Reading who would weld it for you, although they are not the cheapest around.

Martin
Martin

2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses

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05 Mar 2012 06:38 #34877 by mlines
Replied by mlines on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper

darthloachie wrote: our vintage ORA is bolt on and takes the strain of the 13,000 lb winch no problems
there are 6 bolts holding it on


The ORA one comes with its mounts in two parts. The base part welds onto the chassis rails and then the bumper bolts onto the base. Therefore it can be unbolted and removed for ease of access.

I don't know of anyone who does a pure bolt on bumper (i.e. with no welding) as there is no-where to bolt it to.

Martin
Martin

2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses

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05 Mar 2012 07:54 - 05 Mar 2012 08:03 #34884 by darthloachie
Replied by darthloachie on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper

mlines wrote:

darthloachie wrote: our vintage ORA is bolt on and takes the strain of the 13,000 lb winch no problems
there are 6 bolts holding it on


The ORA one comes with its mounts in two parts. The base part welds onto the chassis rails and then the bumper bolts onto the base. Therefore it can be unbolted and removed for ease of access.

I don't know of anyone who does a pure bolt on bumper (i.e. with no welding) as there is no-where to bolt it to.

Martin


Oops - yes you are right as always - my bad :blush:
there are weld on brackets and then 6 bolts that bolt the bumper to the bracket
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heres a pic - fairly similar to the ones on offer now, you can see one of the bolts at the the bottom of the bumper - this is one of two each side and then there is one each side into the front crossmember
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05 Mar 2012 08:31 #34889 by Mud_Muppet
Replied by Mud_Muppet on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
You are welcome to come over and have a look at how mine is mounted (although the car is jammed in the garage with the rear axle off so its a bit of a crawl to look under and see the bumper.

I also know of a small engineering company in Reading who would weld it for you, although they are not the cheapest around.

Martin[/quote]

Cheers Martin, im around the corner from challenger so might pop to them to get it weld it back on,
Looking at the bumper now there is pretty much no weld on there really more like bird poo welds lol, oh well least it didnt happen when i was out on my todd !!!
2001 Red Tin Top,
4.5 inch ORA lift kit,
Pro Comp steering damper
Kap Winch Bumper,
White Weller offset Rims with 30" Insa Turbo Special Tracks,
CB Radio,
Stripped Interia
Roof Rack with 4 front Wipac,
Rear Wipac recovery Lights
.....Plenty more on its way !!!!

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07 Mar 2012 07:55 #35084 by g187eev
Replied by g187eev on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
our new winch plate and Competition spec bumper will both be fully bolt on... .but they will not be available until the summer.

RB

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