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08 Apr 2019 11:39 #205693 by Guy 2
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Possibly useful Canadian tyre review site:

www.tiresandco.ca/test/car-tire/4x4.html#js-pag

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08 Apr 2019 15:29 #205699 by Andy2640

Guy 2 wrote: Possibly useful Canadian tyre review site:

www.tiresandco.ca/test/car-tire/4x4.html#js-pag


Guy,

What do think about the "Hankook at/m Dynamo tyre.

I think there a winner. After all the consideration, im gonna order them next week i think.

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08 Apr 2019 16:33 - 08 Apr 2019 16:43 #205702 by Guy 2
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Hi Andy,

Quick answer is - everything I've seen suggests if you like the look of them then 'go for it'!

Longer answer is - I'm currently trying to pull together some info for the Forum on tyre weights (if I'd known how difficult it was going to be before I started, I probably wouldn't have bothered). The 3 tyres I think are 'still in the frame', for me at any rate, are:
Toyo AT Open Country+ 100T (12.15 kg per tyre)
Hankook Dynapro AT RF10 100S (13.7 kg per tyre)
Yokohama Geolandar G015 100S (14.05 kg per tyre)

These weights are all for the 215/75 R15 size - but my guess is that this is actually what you are looking for. I haven't got weights for the 195/80 R15 size - but a quick look suggests you can probably knock about 1.7-1.8 kg off each respective tyre for the smaller size.

If you count individual user reviews on tyre dealer sites I must have read hundreds of reviews by now - and the one thing I can tell you about the Hankook RF10s is that few if anyone, has anything bad to say about them. They may not be "5 Star" in any particular category (except perhaps longevity), but they are definitely "4 Star Plus" in all categories - including the wet and snow.

I'd go for them - but if you are looking for an alternative then the Toyo Open Country Plus is probably my next recommendation. There are relatively few reviews because they haven't been on the market so long - but they seem to have retained the strength for which their predecessors the Toyo AT2, was renowned - and their light weight speaks for itself. They will have less effect on the Jimny's dynamics.

Perhaps bringing up the rear in this trio, but still a fantastic tyre in my opinion, is the Yokohama G015. Some users feel it has weaker sidewalls than some competitors. On the other hand the Canadian site I referred to above, rates it second only from the top of SUV tyres for performance. This includes performance in snow - and Canadians know a thing or two about snow!

Hope this helps rather than confuses.

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08 Apr 2019 17:20 #205704 by Andy2640
I enjoyed your long answer. Very informative. Cheers.

Does 1 kg per wheel translate into much notable difference you reckon?

From what youve said, and from looking at Mikey's pictures, its a done deal then i think. Best UK price seems to be £70 odd quid.

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08 Apr 2019 21:47 #205726 by MrChips

Guy 2 wrote: Hi Andy,

Quick answer is - everything I've seen suggests if you like the look of them then 'go for it'!

Longer answer is - I'm currently trying to pull together some info for the Forum on tyre weights (if I'd known how difficult it was going to be before I started, I probably wouldn't have bothered). The 3 tyres I think are 'still in the frame', for me at any rate, are:
Toyo AT Open Country+ 100T (12.15 kg per tyre)
Hankook Dynapro AT RF10 100S (13.7 kg per tyre)
Yokohama Geolandar G015 100S (14.05 kg per tyre)

These weights are all for the 215/75 R15 size - but my guess is that this is actually what you are looking for. I haven't got weights for the 195/80 R15 size - but a quick look suggests you can probably knock about 1.7-1.8 kg off each respective tyre for the smaller size.

If you count individual user reviews on tyre dealer sites I must have read hundreds of reviews by now - and the one thing I can tell you about the Hankook RF10s is that few if anyone, has anything bad to say about them. They may not be "5 Star" in any particular category (except perhaps longevity), but they are definitely "4 Star Plus" in all categories - including the wet and snow.

I'd go for them - but if you are looking for an alternative then the Toyo Open Country Plus is probably my next recommendation. There are relatively few reviews because they haven't been on the market so long - but they seem to have retained the strength for which their predecessors the Toyo AT2, was renowned - and their light weight speaks for itself. They will have less effect on the Jimny's dynamics.

Perhaps bringing up the rear in this trio, but still a fantastic tyre in my opinion, is the Yokohama G015. Some users feel it has weaker sidewalls than some competitors. On the other hand the Canadian site I referred to above, rates it second only from the top of SUV tyres for performance. This includes performance in snow - and Canadians know a thing or two about snow!

Hope this helps rather than confuses.

Envy you your situation - but in a good way!


I've been following this thread with real interest, as I'm sure we all are thinking of AT tyres for the Gen 4
The Hankook website state that the LT215/75R15 as a 97 Load rating. I wonder is this correct?
www.hankooktire.com/uk/passenger-cars/ha...napro-at-m-rf10.html

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09 Apr 2019 00:34 #205734 by Guy 2
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Hi MrChips (great handle that), with a quick look I couldn't find the right size of tyre with the link you gave - but that's probably me late at night!

Oponeo,Tyrecomp, Tyreleader, Mytyres, Pneus-on-line, Idealo and TyresGuru all show the Hankook RF10 in 215/75 R15 with a load rating of either 100 or 100/97. In this last case, as I understand it, the 97 rating is for double tyres i.e. x4 (6 in total), on the rear of something like a large double cab. 97 is then the load on each tyre. If I'm wrong someone will put me straight on this.

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09 Apr 2019 00:44 #205735 by Guy 2
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Hi Andy,

I suspect that 1 kg in isolation isn't too bad. The issue is that the Bridgestone HTs, on which the Jimny will likely be delivered, are, I estimate, somewhere between 9.75 and 10 kg per tyre. So the difference you will feel from your test-drive to your 'modded' Jimny will be the new tyre weight minus, say, 10 kg. That's 2-3 kg or more. I reckon that will have an effect.

Not what you wanted to hear, I guess.

Others on this Forum will be better suited to express an opinion.

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09 Apr 2019 01:32 #205736 by MrChips

Guy 2 wrote: Hi MrChips (great handle that), with a quick look I couldn't find the right size of tyre with the link you gave - but that's probably me late at night!

Oponeo,Tyrecomp, Tyreleader, Mytyres, Pneus-on-line, Idealo and TyresGuru all show the Hankook RF10 in 215/75 R15 with a load rating of either 100 or 100/97. In this last case, as I understand it, the 97 rating is for double tyres i.e. x4 (6 in total), on the rear of something like a large double cab. 97 is then the load on each tyre. If I'm wrong someone will put me straight on this.


Thanks Guy, that dual rating thing has had me puzzled for some weeks now. I now understand that double wheels each side of an axle have a slightly reduced load rating. It would be great if someone could say what is stamped on the side of their Hankooks for load rating. Cheers

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10 Apr 2019 15:17 #205814 by Andy2640
Sorry i missed your reply Guy.

Well yeah...when it translates to that much extra weight, it shines another light on the decision.

I'm a few shaves off pulling the trigger on em now.....

Just had a price of £86.00 per tyre, with a £20 fitting fee per wheel. Inc. balance etc.

Anyways, nice1 Guy, you've been a great addition to this forum since you joined, informative and enthusiastic so you are ;-) . Cheers buddy!

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10 Apr 2019 17:41 #205820 by MilkyRon
£20 per tyre seems very steep. I usually pay £5

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10 Apr 2019 17:51 #205822 by Guy 2
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"Flattery will get you everywhere, Andy!"

Just pleased if some of it helped.

I'm a few days away from a proper list of weights - but since you sound as if you are about to 'press the button' my concluding comments on your present dilemma are:

If it were me and I was looking for a good performance from a 215/75 R15 All Terrain - then my choice would be the Toyo Open Country AT Plus at 12.15 kg per tyre. It's actually lighter than the Cooper AT3 Sport in the smaller 195/80 R15 size (13 kg), and virtually the same weight as the Grabber AT3 195/80 R15 (12 kg). Everything suggests it has still retained the toughness of the former Toyo AT2, but it has just been well engineered for (relative) lightness.

If you do change your mind and go for the 195/80 R15 size then I think the options open up a bit more. The Hankook and the Toyo AT Plus will both be good. The Yokohama is just a bit heavier. Lightest of the lot is the Bridgestone AT001 195/80 at 10.485 Kg - BUT it appears to be a much more road-oriented AT pattern and if you intending to "forge your way over the hills and valleys" then maybe it isn't for you?
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10 Apr 2019 18:00 #205823 by stiffsteve204me

MilkyRon wrote: £20 per tyre seems very steep. I usually pay £5





^^^^^^^^ This.

Never paid more than £5 a corner.

( They are probably charging you £15 each, for filling with nitrogen.:laugh: )








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