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BigJimnyMeet (North) 2024 (12 Jan 2024)
BigJimnyMeet 2024
14th July 2024
Parkwood Nr. Leeds
14th July 2024
Parkwood Nr. Leeds
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ORA Deal
02 Dec 2013 08:40 #94257
by jonesyba420
Replied by jonesyba420 on topic ORA Deal
are they advertising it as a "money saving deal" or just heres the parts all together to save you time and effort on the website?
no offence intended buddy but could you make 4 shocks 4 springs 8 bushes etc for £500? i know i couldnt
i agree with you when it comes to things like nike trainers etc but not with things like lift kits, your paying for the research and development along with the specialist tools and peoples skills to manufacture them not just the brand.
no offence intended buddy but could you make 4 shocks 4 springs 8 bushes etc for £500? i know i couldnt
i agree with you when it comes to things like nike trainers etc but not with things like lift kits, your paying for the research and development along with the specialist tools and peoples skills to manufacture them not just the brand.
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02 Dec 2013 09:04 - 02 Dec 2013 09:05 #94262
by Hastiekid
Exactly, no one makes you buy them if you have the time know how and resources but if you dont you pay them to engineer, design and build the parts for you..............thats just how the world works...............I know this because Im a Production and Development Engineer in the real world
Ian
Replied by Hastiekid on topic ORA Deal
piprice wrote: and engineering!
Rant over
Exactly, no one makes you buy them if you have the time know how and resources but if you dont you pay them to engineer, design and build the parts for you..............thats just how the world works...............I know this because Im a Production and Development Engineer in the real world
Ian
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02 Dec 2013 09:24 #94265
by Yellostreak
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I have mates who can make this stuff for less than that and some of them would gladly do it for nothing.. others make a secondary income from it and I don't grudge them for it either... business is about providing a service or product to someone who does not have the capability of capacity to do it for themselves no matter how formal or informal its done... personally I'd rather my mates be out playing in mud than making bits for me..
Replied by Yellostreak on topic ORA Deal
Hastiekid wrote:
piprice wrote: and engineering!
Rant over
Exactly, no one makes you buy them if you have the time know how and resources but if you dont you pay them to engineer, design and build the parts for you..............thats just how the world works...............I know this because Im a Production and Development Engineer in the real world
Ian
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I have mates who can make this stuff for less than that and some of them would gladly do it for nothing.. others make a secondary income from it and I don't grudge them for it either... business is about providing a service or product to someone who does not have the capability of capacity to do it for themselves no matter how formal or informal its done... personally I'd rather my mates be out playing in mud than making bits for me..
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02 Dec 2013 13:06 - 02 Dec 2013 13:06 #94278
by mlines
You have just answered your own question. Its as much about the design and research work in addition to the material and effort in producing the final product.
I have bits of scrap "research" in my garage for my products etc. which represents a cost to me in putting the final product together.
A recent example are the breather kits, I have invested in the parts and researched it, now in production there is a small issue with one aspect of them, therefore they are not currently for sale whilst it is sorted. Then, down the line, someone will no doubt buy the kit and then sell similar on Ebay, undercutting the price because it does not reflect the issues in putting the product together.
Not only that but I am probably the mainstream producers worst enemy anyway, as I have a real day job to pay the mortgage
I don't have premises to heat, business rates etc..
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
piprice wrote: all they need is the diagrams.
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You have just answered your own question. Its as much about the design and research work in addition to the material and effort in producing the final product.
I have bits of scrap "research" in my garage for my products etc. which represents a cost to me in putting the final product together.
A recent example are the breather kits, I have invested in the parts and researched it, now in production there is a small issue with one aspect of them, therefore they are not currently for sale whilst it is sorted. Then, down the line, someone will no doubt buy the kit and then sell similar on Ebay, undercutting the price because it does not reflect the issues in putting the product together.
Not only that but I am probably the mainstream producers worst enemy anyway, as I have a real day job to pay the mortgage
I don't have premises to heat, business rates etc..
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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02 Dec 2013 13:42 #94281
by piprice
Replied by piprice on topic ORA Deal
Bit of a debate this one
All I have in my head is Dave cc engineering his own kit for the 1.7 which he said saved him a lot of money!
Wish I knew someone in the trade not only have they the equipment they will more than likely enjoy the challenge!
Most company's big brand or big name are engineers anyway and do this or have found a route And moved on to it whilst undertaking other engineering work...
Certain items have been on the market for years, prices seem to be going up, metal prices, and other prices, which reflect on us and the price, but nothing is coming down....
There will always be, well we've changed this product so it's now better.... A pound lighter or whatever so prices will stay the same or go up!
I'm a smart price man as you now can tell
It's good to hear everyone's opinions, shows although we like jimnys we are also all different
All I have in my head is Dave cc engineering his own kit for the 1.7 which he said saved him a lot of money!
Wish I knew someone in the trade not only have they the equipment they will more than likely enjoy the challenge!
Most company's big brand or big name are engineers anyway and do this or have found a route And moved on to it whilst undertaking other engineering work...
Certain items have been on the market for years, prices seem to be going up, metal prices, and other prices, which reflect on us and the price, but nothing is coming down....
There will always be, well we've changed this product so it's now better.... A pound lighter or whatever so prices will stay the same or go up!
I'm a smart price man as you now can tell
It's good to hear everyone's opinions, shows although we like jimnys we are also all different
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