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Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose.
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01 Oct 2011 20:03 #22884
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Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose. was created by Fuzzoire
Hi,
My air hub pipes have corroded through completely and it's looking pretty costly to replace them. I am wondering if anyone has successfully replaced the steel pipes with silicone hose at a fraction of the cost. I know most advise binning the air hubs for manual versions but I do not wish to do so.
My Jimny is a 2000 X reg with a M13a 1328cc DOHC engine.
For the sake of £10-15 I am going to give it a go. Just looking for a bit of advice or encouragement.
My air hub pipes have corroded through completely and it's looking pretty costly to replace them. I am wondering if anyone has successfully replaced the steel pipes with silicone hose at a fraction of the cost. I know most advise binning the air hubs for manual versions but I do not wish to do so.
My Jimny is a 2000 X reg with a M13a 1328cc DOHC engine.
For the sake of £10-15 I am going to give it a go. Just looking for a bit of advice or encouragement.
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01 Oct 2011 20:25 #22886
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Replied by p1ngu32 on topic Re: Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose.
There is no reason why it wouldnt work, only drawback might be that they will be more likely to get caught on some thing and ripped off. You could use standard copper brake line to make up the straight sections, and silicone for the joints on to the suspension arms, might make them a little more sturdy, and shouldnt be too costly.
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01 Oct 2011 20:38 #22888
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Replied by Fuzzoire on topic Re: Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose.
I thought about using copper brake piping but I am not sure what to do where the single pipes from the solenoids split into two off to each wheel. I was going to to use a nylon t-junction connector with the silicone hose.
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01 Oct 2011 21:24 #22891
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Replied by MigCooper on topic Re: Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose.
Yes any T junction will do ... I have redone mine and will create a schematic when I get a chance .... Off to bed now ...
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02 Oct 2011 05:59 #22895
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Replied by viciouspenguin on topic Re: Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose.
Might the silicon tube collapse due to the vacuum?
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02 Oct 2011 06:14 #22896
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Replied by Fuzzoire on topic Re: Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose.
Not sure about it collapsing, it is sold as vacuum hose. MigCooper has apparently done it. Found a shop on ebay selling 3mm for £1.55 a metre free p+p.
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02 Oct 2011 11:37 #22909
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Replied by trextr7monkey on topic Re: Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose.
Not an expert on this by any means but wouldn't nylon air line tube - designed for high pressures, be better suited and possibly cheaper than silicon for this job?
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02 Oct 2011 15:33 #22923
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Replied by Fuzzoire on topic Re: Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose.
I am no expert either and your dead right, Nylon tubing it is way cheaper than silicone. As I understand there is no air actually being blown down the tube, it is being sucked causing the vacuum which would potentially collapse the tube which is why I initially thought of vacuum hose. Not sure what material the flexible portions of the stock system are?
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02 Oct 2011 15:58 - 02 Oct 2011 15:58 #22924
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Replied by viciouspenguin on topic Re: Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose.
why not fit manual hubs?
Last edit: 02 Oct 2011 15:58 by viciouspenguin.
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02 Oct 2011 16:25 #22926
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Replied by Fuzzoire on topic Re: Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose.
My missus wouldn't thank me for that in the snow. Besides I quite like the clonk, clonk and the click, click (when it works).
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02 Oct 2011 20:15 #22943
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If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Re: Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose.
I copied my pipes in copper brakepipe: took ages to make and braze on the tee pieces, but you can buy ready made tee pieces for brakepipe if you have a flaring tool..
You could use microbore heating pipe if it is still available, there must be solder tee pieces available.
You could use microbore heating pipe if it is still available, there must be solder tee pieces available.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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02 Oct 2011 20:44 #22947
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2002 JLX Soft Top
Jimnybits 2" lift +Pro Comp ES1000 shocks. Big Jimny rear shock mounts. Big Jimny adjustable panhard rods.
Big Jimny steering damper bracket. Disco Armstrong steering damper. 7X15 black modulars. 205/75/15 Maxxis 743 bravo m/t.Superpro camber correction bushes.Black A bar....
Replied by dirtydogz on topic Re: Replacing air hub pipes with silicone hose.
Yes you can still get microbore heating pipe from screwfix
www.screwfix.com/c/heating-plumbing/poly...lene-pipe/cat2330006
www.screwfix.com/c/heating-plumbing/poly...lene-pipe/cat2330006
2002 JLX Soft Top
Jimnybits 2" lift +Pro Comp ES1000 shocks. Big Jimny rear shock mounts. Big Jimny adjustable panhard rods.
Big Jimny steering damper bracket. Disco Armstrong steering damper. 7X15 black modulars. 205/75/15 Maxxis 743 bravo m/t.Superpro camber correction bushes.Black A bar....
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