Electronic Stability Control and Traction Control systems - Revision history

Bosanek: Added the article into the Electrical category

2019-06-17T11:57:12Z

Added the article into the Electrical category

Bosanek: Link correction

2019-06-10T13:51:36Z

Link correction

Bosanek: Link correction

2019-06-10T13:39:27Z

Link correction

Bosanek: Reprocessed the article to clearly indicate which content refers to Jimnys gen3 and which refers to Jimnys gen4

2019-03-07T06:53:35Z

Reprocessed the article to clearly indicate which content refers to Jimnys gen3 and which refers to Jimnys gen4

Bosanek: Category adjustment

2019-02-21T13:53:34Z

Category adjustment

Bosanek: Minor phrase correction

2019-02-09T18:38:47Z

Minor phrase correction

Bosanek: Added a video example where traction control creates a negative effect off road

2018-12-25T13:26:22Z

Added a video example where traction control creates a negative effect off road

Bosanek: Some typos

2018-12-24T07:48:05Z

Some typos

Bosanek: Significantly improved the description of the systems' functionalities, by correcting mistakenly described operation of ESC/TC button and by adding new info on how TC can be manually turned OFF/ON !! Significant contribution was done by forum user Cigo68

2018-12-24T07:38:22Z

Significantly improved the description of the systems' functionalities, by correcting mistakenly described operation of ESC/TC button and by adding new info on how TC can be manually turned OFF/ON !! Significant contribution was done by forum user Cigo68

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Bosanek: Some minor phrase corrections here and there

2018-01-28T08:20:00Z

Some minor phrase corrections here and there

← Older revision		Revision as of 11:57, 17 June 2019
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		+	[[Category:Electrical - gen3]]
		+	[[Category:Offroading - gen3]]
	[[Category:Reference_Data - gen3]]		[[Category:Reference_Data - gen3]]
−	~~[[Category:Offroading - gen3]]~~

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 {{Gen3|}}
-[[File:Suzuki Jimny - fog lamp and ESC control buttons - A01.jpg|800px|thumb|left|Appearance and position of the ESC control switch (in an LHD Jimny 3)]]
+[[File:Suzuki Jimny 3 - fog lamp and ESC control buttons - A01.jpg|800px|thumb|left|Appearance and position of the ESC control switch (in an LHD Jimny 3)]]
 * Jimnys 3, which have ESC (and TC) installed, also have a dedicated switch in the cabin to control the operation of those systems.

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 {{Gen3|}}
-[[File:Suzuki Jimny - fog light and ESC control buttons - A01.jpg|800px|thumb|left|Appearance and position of the ESC control switch (in an LHD Jimny 3)]]
+[[File:Suzuki Jimny - fog lamp and ESC control buttons - A01.jpg|800px|thumb|left|Appearance and position of the ESC control switch (in an LHD Jimny 3)]]
 * Jimnys 3, which have ESC (and TC) installed, also have a dedicated switch in the cabin to control the operation of those systems.

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 == Introduction ==
+{{Gen3|}}
-* Suzuki added Electronic Stability Control (ESC) and Traction Control (TC) systems in Jimnys somewhere in the period 2013-2015 (depending on the market).
+* Suzuki added Electronic Stability Control (ESC) and Traction Control (TC) systems in Jimny 3 somewhere in the period 2013-2015 (depending on the market).
-* Since then, ESC and TC systems for Jimnys have been optional in some markets, while they are mandatory in others.
+* Since then, ESC and TC systems for Jimny 3 have been optional in some markets, while they are mandatory in others.
 {{note|More about the history of revisions to the Jimny vehicle model can be found in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Jimny#Development_history Generic world Wikipedia article on Jimnys].}}
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 == Official documents ==
-[[File:Suzuki Jimny - ESC leaflet - A01.jpg|416px|thumb|left|Suzuki's official leaflet for Jimny's ESC and TC]]
+* This is official Suzuki's leaflet which describes the operation of Jimny 3's ESC and TC systems in a brief summary.
 * The leaflet confirms that there are actually two systems - electronic stability control (ESC) system '''and''' traction control (TC) system.
-* What is not properly explained here is that the ESC and TC in Jimny are two functionally separate systems.
+* What is not properly explained here is that the ESC and TC in Jimny 3 are two functionally separate systems.
 * More on that will be explained below.
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 == Switches and indicator lamps ==
-[[File:Suzuki Jimny - fog light and ESC control buttons - A01.jpg|800px|thumb|left|Appearance and position of the ESC control switch (in an LHD Jimny)]]
+* Jimnys 3, which have ESC (and TC) installed, also have a dedicated switch in the cabin to control the operation of those systems.
 * Let's call it an "ESC/TC switch" for the sake of simplicity.
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-[[File:Suzuki Jimny - instrument panel (3rd edition from 2014) - A01.jpg|800px|thumb|left|The appearance of the latest (3rd edition) Jimny instrument panel]]
+[[File:Suzuki Jimny - instrument panel (3rd edition from 2014) - A01.jpg|800px|thumb|left|The appearance of the latest (3rd edition) Jimny 3 instrument panel]]
-* All Jimnys which have ESC (and TC) should also have the latest (3rd edition) instrument panel, like the one on this picture.
+* All Jimnys 3 which have ESC (and TC) should also have the latest (3rd edition) instrument panel, like the one on this picture.
-* This is a picture of such instrument panel from a Jimny sold in continental Europe, with all the indicator lamps turned on.
+* This is a picture of such instrument panel from a Jimny 3 sold in continental Europe, with all the indicator lamps turned on.
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 == Operation of the ESC and TC systems ==
+{{Gen3|}}
 === General principle ===
-* The programming is such that Jimny's ESC system works only in 2WD-H and 4WD-H transmission modes, and the TC system works only in 4WD-L transmission mode.
+* The programming is such that Jimny 3's ESC system works only in 2WD-H and 4WD-H transmission modes, and the TC system works only in 4WD-L transmission mode.
 ** Therefore, only one (or none) of those systems can be active at a certain point in time, but not both at once.
 * Both systems share the same operation indicator lamp on the instrument panel.
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-* The ESC system in a Jimny works as a typical vehicle stability control system.
+* The ESC system in a Jimny 3 works as a typical vehicle stability control system.
 ** This means that ESC monitors if the vehicle has started to skid or to spin out (on a bend for example).
 *** If that happens, ESC attempts to correct vehicle's trajectory by swiftly manipulating each individual wheel brake, engine throttle, etc.
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 * ESC can be turned OFF or ON manually by the driver in 2WD-H and 4WD-H transmission modes simply by pressing the ESC/TC button.
 ** ESC's operational status will be indicated by the corresponding lamp on the instrument panel.
-* A typical reason why someone might want ESC to be OFF is to enjoy some sporty spirited driving (in a Jimny !?).
+* A typical reason why someone might want ESC to be OFF is to enjoy some sporty spirited driving (''in a Jimny !?'').
 * ESC can not be turned ON in 4WD-L transmission mode.
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 * Its goal is to fool the axle differentials to "hand over" the torque to the other wheel on that axle, which presumably has more traction than the useless wheel.
 ** This is very similar in concept to the traction control systems found in many other 4WD vehicle models (Land Rover Discovery 2 for example).
-* This in practice means that Jimny's TC system can significantly aid the driver off-road on '''some''' slippery terrain and especially in cross-axle off-road situations.
+* This in practice means that Jimny 3's TC system can significantly aid the driver off-road on '''some''' slippery terrain and especially in cross-axle off-road situations.
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 === Review from Australian Practical Motoring magazine ===
+{{Gen3|}}
-* Read [https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-reviews/2015-suzuki-jimny-review/ this professional Australian off-road test drive review] of a Jimny with ESC/TC.
+* Read [https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-reviews/2015-suzuki-jimny-review/ this professional Australian off-road test drive review] of a Jimny 3 with ESC/TC.
-* The review focuses specifically on the ESC/TC systems in the new Jimny, and evaluates the operation of the systems in all terrain conditions.
+* The review focuses specifically on the ESC/TC systems in late production Jimny 3, and evaluates the operation of the systems in all terrain conditions.
 === Test on rollers in Poland ===
+{{Gen3|}}
-Here is a Polish video which vividly portrays the operation of Jimny's ESC and TC systems in a controlled environment:
+Here is a Polish video which vividly portrays the operation of Jimny 3's ESC and TC systems in a controlled environment:
 <youtube>https://youtu.be/r_cO4qDEmRI</youtube>
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 * The test on rollers simulates the loss of traction in off-road conditions.
 * It clearly shows the ineffectiveness of the ESC system in 4WD-H mode, and the effectiveness of the TC system in 4WD-L mode.
 == Conclusions ==
+{{Gen3|}}
 To summarize, here are several key points.
-* Jimnys, which have ESC, have in fact two separate systems - ESC and TC.
+* Jimnys 3, which have ESC, have in fact two separate systems - ESC and TC.
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 === Special note ===
+{{Gen3|}}
 * Don't forget that all these are unofficial conclusions based on inputs from various forum members and from a few Internet sources.
-* It could easily be possible that the programming of Jimny's ESC/TC controller differs for different world markets!
+* It could easily be possible that the programming of Jimny 3's ESC/TC controller differs for different world markets!
 ** Only Suzuki could officially clarify all this!

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-[[Category:Offroading]]
+[[Category:Reference_Data - gen3]]

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 * It is the right-most switch in the three-switch cluster (above the external mirrors adjustment switch), together with the fog lamp control switches.
 * The ESC/TC switch has a symbol of a skidding vehicle (with the "OFF" letters beneath) imprinted on it.
-* The ESC/TC switch provides the driver with the possibility to manually turn ESC to ON or OFF state.
+* The ESC/TC switch provides the driver with the ability to manually turn '''ESC''' to ON or to OFF state.
-* The ESC/TC switch can also turn TC to ON or OFF state - read more in one of the chapters below!
+* The ESC/TC switch can also turn '''TC''' to ON or to OFF state - read more in one of the chapters below!

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	*** This will "steal" vehicle's momentum and lead it to a standstill on the middle of the ascent, or even to an engine stall.		*** This will "steal" vehicle's momentum and lead it to a standstill on the middle of the ascent, or even to an engine stall.
	**** It's almost like charging up a hill and then simultaneously applying both the brakes and the throttle in the middle of the critical struggle during the ascent - like shooting yourself in the foot.		**** It's almost like charging up a hill and then simultaneously applying both the brakes and the throttle in the middle of the critical struggle during the ascent - like shooting yourself in the foot.
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		+	Watch this video from time point '''2:55''' onward to see a situation where traction control actually hinders the momentum and thus progress (example is on a Jimny 4, but it could have been any other all-terrain vehicle with traction control for that matter).
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		+	<youtube>/a-geyO226BU&t=176</youtube>

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 * TC can be turned OFF or ON manually by the driver in 4WD-L transmission mode by long pressing the ESC/TC button.
 ** Long pressing means holding the button pressed in for at least a couple of seconds.
-* Unfortunately, the vehicle will give no sound nor audio indication the the TC has just been switched ON or OFF.
+* Unfortunately, the vehicle will give no sound nor audio indication that the TC has just been switched ON or OFF.
 * The only way to check if TC is ON or OFF in 4WD-L mode is to field-test it by applying strong sudden throttle in 1st low or 2nd low gear on a slippery surface.
 ** When TC is ON, the operational indicator lamp on the instrument panel will blink intermittently as the vehicle is struggling for traction during acceleration.
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 * TC works only in 4WD-L transmission mode.
-** TC '''can''' be manually turned OFF/ON while the vehicle is in that mode, by long pressing the ESC/TC button (for at least a couple of seconds).
+** TC '''can''' be manually turned OFF / ON while the vehicle is in that mode, by long pressing the ESC/TC button (for at least a couple of seconds).
 * TC works relatively effectively to aid vehicle's traction in cross-axle off-road situations and in '''some''' slippery conditions.
 ** However, TC can be a hindrance in certain slippery situations.

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-The typical mystery and confusion about ESC in Jimnys is '''how''' and '''when''' it exactly works, with the primary question bring whether it has any usefulness in all-terrain driving situations.
+The typical mystery and confusion about ESC in Jimnys is '''how''' and '''when''' it exactly works, with the primary question being whether it has any usefulness in all-terrain driving situations.
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 * This is official Suzuki's leaflet which describes the operation of Jimny's ESC system in a brief summary.
-* The leaflet says that there are actually two systems - electronic stability control (ESC) system '''and''' traction control system (TC).
+* The leaflet says that there are actually two systems - electronic stability control (ESC) system '''and''' traction control (TC) system.
 * So, it's not as straightforward as it is generally believed.
-* What is not explained here is that the ESC and TC in Jimny are two separate systems.
+* What is not properly explained here is that the ESC and TC in Jimny are two functionally separate systems.
 * More on that will be explained below.
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-* When the vehicle returns from 4WD-L transmission mode back into 4WD-H or 2WD-H mode, TC will automatically turn OFF and ESC will automatically turn ON (if the ESC switch is not pressed in).
+* When the vehicle returns from 4WD-L transmission mode back into 4WD-H or 2WD-H mode, TC will automatically turn OFF.
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 * The inability to turn off the TC system in 4WD-L mode can be a disadvantage in certain all-terrain driving situations.
 ** Example is when charging up a slippery hill (for example: a very loose gravel incline or a muddy incline).
-*** In this case, when all four wheels are furiously spinning and spraying gravel or mud all around, TCS will start selectively and intermittently breaking all of them.
+*** In this case, when all four wheels are furiously spinning and spraying gravel or mud all around, the TC system will start selectively and intermittently breaking all of them.
 **** This will "steal" vehicle's momentum and lead it to a standstill on the middle of the ascent, or even to an engine stall.
 ***** It's almost like charging up a hill and then simultaneously applying both the brakes and the throttle in the middle of the critical struggle during the ascent - like shooting yourself in the foot.
 * It is unclear why Suzuki decided '''not''' to provide a way for the driver to turn off TC in 4WD-L mode if the driver desired so.
-** The ESC button could have been utilized for that (to be a shared "'''ESC''' / '''TC'''" OFF button), just like the above mentioned indicator lamp on the instrument panel is a shared lamp.
+** The ESC button could have been utilized for that (to be a shared "'''ESC''' / '''TC'''" OFF button), just like the above mentioned indicator lamp on the instrument panel is a shared lamp between the two systems.
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 * TC works only in 4WD-L transmission mode, and it can '''not''' be turned off while the vehicle is in that mode.
 * TC works relatively effectively to aid vehicle's traction in slippery or cross-axle off-road situations.
-* The state of the ECS button on the dashboard has nothing to do with the operation of the TC system.
+* The state of the ESC button on the dashboard has nothing to do with the operation of the TC system.
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 * Both ESC and TC are probably operated by the same dedicated controlling computer.
 * The computer probably just has two different operational / programming modes (one for ESC and one for TC).
-** Therefore, ESC and TC are two logically separate systems (they are separate from the operational and driver's point of view).
+** Therefore, ESC and TC are two functionally and logically separate systems (they are separate from the operational and driver's point of view).
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-* Don't forget that these are unofficial conclusions based on inputs from various forum members and from a few Internet sources.
+* Don't forget that all these are unofficial conclusions based on inputs from various forum members and from a few Internet sources.
 * It could easily be possible that the programming of Jimny's ESC/TC controller differs for different world markets!