8 Ball CV Joint

Say 1,500 miles and sweet as a nut. In my opinion as the wheel bearing was goosed it was casued by at least two sized calipers overheating the area and melting the grease is bearing greasw flows at about 200C.

Just down the bearing on the passenger side. The bearing was noisey but not that rough and it still has had some grease on it. The CV joint had no grease left but still in good condtion so coated with Moly grease. That side also had a caliper rebuilt then a new one a year later.

Yes I would buy those CV joints again.

Where did you buy that Jakoparts J2828040 CV joint? How much did you pay for it?

I found it very cheap on Mister-Auto web shop (www.mister-auto.co.uk) (they have other national sites across Europe as well).
The price of this CV joint on Mister-Auto is approximately only 50% of the price on other car parts web stores. However, I read a lot of bad forum opinions about Mister Auto car parts web store.

EDIT:
It appears that the bad forum opinions about Mister Auto is mainly related to unpredictable delivery times and delays (at least on UK forums) and bad support over email and phone. But that is not an issue for someone who is not in a hurry for parts.

It appears that Mister Auto currently does not have a distribution warehouse in UK (not even a support call center), so they send the ordered parts from abroad in EU, and that causes entropy in delivery times.

Yes bought them from Mister Auto at £38.50 each inc VAT plus postage.

Quick delivery.

No problems at all.

Thank you for a quick confirmation.

I am puzzled by one thing - the lack of aftermarket CVs for the 8 ball, 29 int spline CV model.


Evidently, there are two types of CV joints for Jimnys.

The first type has 6 balls, 26 external splines and 19 internal splines.
The second type has 8 balls, 26 external splines and 29 internal splines.

My investigation in Suzuki's original parts database shows that the first CV type was used in older Jimny models (until approx year 2006), and that the newer CV type is used in newer Jimny models (from approx 2006).

The two types are not interchangeable because of different number of internal splines.

Since Suzuki sells CVs only together with halfshafts, and halfshafts are of different length, they sell right and left sides as different products.

The first type CV has part numbers 44102-81A00 (LH) and 44101-81A00 (RH).
The second type CV has part numbers 44102-84A00 (LH) and 44101-84A00 (RH).

All for of these part numbers are super duper uber expensive (four digits in EUR currency).

My thorough Internet investigation shows that there are several aftermarket manufacturers of the first type of CVs with "normal" prices (two digits in EUR currency) (without the halfshafts, so they are interchangeable left and right).
But on the other hand, I have not been able to find a single aftermarket manufacturer of the second type CV.

The only exception, if it counts as an exception, is the Jakoparts J2828040 CV, which the forum user auchenblae has bought and successfully installed.
But that CV, although it has correct number of internal and external splines as the second type Suzuki CV, still has 6 balls instead of 8 in the newer type.


What puzzles me here is that I have not been able to find anyone on this forum (except user auchenblae) searching for or complaining about a replacement 2nd type CV for his newer Jimny revision.
I think it's highly unlikely that no one of all of you here has never had the need to replace a CV on a newer Jimny?
Or you all drive very old Jimnys?

I'm afraid your research has not been that thorough.

The main reason for CV joints are going at 60k miles on my cars is not normal wear and tear during road use but cars that have had two calipers that have seized on the same side and the discs therefore running at 200C for a long time and not just during heavy breaking, normal running temps being 50C to 90C.

In my own location there appear to be iron salts coming out farmers fields which casue the calipers to seize on our Jimny, four calipers on one car , MX5's, three calipers on two cars and Impreza's around 7 calipers over three cars since 2001.

Our ouriginal 1999 Jimny and VW's in the 90's never had a problem with seized calipers and at 100k miles were all on the original CV joints and front wheel bearings.

Both multipurpose grease and CV grease disapear at those temperatures.

I finally have to replace my front left CV and I bought the same Jakoparts J2828040 aftermarket CV joint as Auchenblae did.

My Jimny originally had an 8-ball CV joint, and the replacement one does fit despite having 6 balls (but the balls are larger). The splines are compatible. I could not find any other compatible replacement CV joint apart from Jakoparts J2828040.

We could not remove the original CV joint from the halfshaft using the hammer, so we used grinder to chop it apart (very tedious and precise work required).

The job is still ongoing. I am in the process of searching for a good waterproof grease which is meant for CV joints.

What kind of grease should I be looking at? Is a synthetic lithium grease a good choice? Or a sodium grease?

I found one of each kind, but with scarce technical info:
www.abro.com/lg-990.html
www.abro.com/gr-303.html

You need two different greases and some sealant.

Nothing special about the CV grease just the typical lithium soap grease with added moly that are usually called CV grease or MolyDisulphate grease. Do not put too much in, just make sure the joint is well packed that does not mean grease everywhere and big dobs lying about, just work into the joint but still be able to see the outline of the joint.

This will do

www.halfords.com/motoring/engine-oils-fl...ith-moly-grease-500g

Now to lubricate the king pin bearings use this stuff.

www.bigjimny.com/store/waterproof-grease.html

If you do not have any get this sealant to stop water getting in between the mating surfaces of the kingpin caps.

www.bigjimny.com/store/loctite-premium-c...ilicone-sealant.html

As they say have a nice but dirty day.

Been there and do check the front wheel bearing as they tend to go at the same time. I have done both front wheel bearings but only the offside CV joint as that side was where the most damage was caused by calipers seizing.

eddie

Thank you for the advices on the greases. As I live in another country and do not have the same assortment of greases readily available, this is what I managed to find in a short amount of time, as presumably good choices:

CV was greased with Abro LG-990:
www.abro.com/lg-990.html
www.abro.ru/products/smazki-tekhnicheski...-litevaya-sintetic3/

Kingpins were greased with Divinol 23980:
www.zeller-gmelin.de/view/product/23980?...F8FA1ABDDC8222E7C74B

That Abro grease is synthetic, and I read on several places that synthetic greases are the weapon of choice against water ingress.
That Divinol grease looks like it was made in Chernobyl, it is has stark light green color and is very sticky and slimy. It is super hard to wipe off or rinse off. My mechanic says that petrol easily rinses off various greases (he uses petrol for rinsing them), but this grease was almost impervious to petrol rinsing!

I replaced my left CV during the rebuilt process.

My car was built in 2006, so the original CV had 26 external splines and 29 internal splines (CVs in older Jimnys have 26 external splines but only 19 internal splines). My CV had 8 balls.

I replaced it with Herth+Buss Jakoparts J2828040 CV, which has the same number of internal and external splines as my original CV joint (the only such aftermarket CV which I was able to find, after exhaustive search), but it has 6 balls instead of 8 balls (although those 6 balls are larger to compensate for 2 less).
I did not do significant offroading since installing this CV joint, so I can't comment on its service yet.


The original CV has the following markings:

A I NTN EBJ82 N V 5 H


This means that NTN ( www.ntnglobal.com/en/index.html ) manufactured this original CV joint, and the model of the joint is EBJ82.

Since Suzuki asks a horrendeous price for the replacement original CV joint (they sell it only together with the halfshaft), it would definitely pay off if someone could find where else we could buy this NTN EBJ82 CV joint.

That's the first link which I found on Google when I searched for that NTN EBJ82 CV.

I see two CVs on that shaft. The left CV on the picture looks completely different, so maybe the right CV on the picture is ours. But even the right CV appears too big (the cup is too long).

Is there a volunteer to buy that Ebay item and test the CV for the sake of the community?



EDIT:
That Ebay ad says that "28 SPLINE OUTER CV, 26 SPLINE INNER CV".
Since there are two CVs on one shaft, the seller probably refers to the left (clearly incompatible) CV when he mentions 28 splines, and probably to the right (potentially ours) CV when he mentions 26 splines. And that number (26) matches!